Black Tuesday?

wagonboy · 12-17-2009, 02:14 AM

Michael Beard for president. Jody as vice pres. I am new on here, and new to stock. I have been racing for over 15 years and have wanted a stocker for forever and a day. I finally have one, it does not run under yet,but I am working on it, and it will, even if the index drops.

Here is what I gather from reading all this.

If you are not fast but can drive your *** off, the go fast guys don't like it.

Not all the fast guys/gals feel this way, but why not encourage participation. Who cares how much effort it takes to get at or under the index now, it still takes a bit of work and money even to get .2 under. There are people willing to jump in, but how "hard" do you want to make it. Get car counts up and s/ss healthy, then tweak the rules.

If I had to get 1 second under for index, I would work until I was there, of course I would be 89 years old, senile, wearing a diaper and not racing. I don't see how prolonging the ability for people to get started in the class can benefit the class. Maybe it will keep the prestige, but what is prestigious about a dying class. How prestigious will it be when it is gone ?

Nice to meet all of you.

Ryan Smith - 723R

GTX JOHN · 12-17-2009, 04:23 AM

Good post and spot on Wagon Boy!!! We run an old Dodge Pickup and an old Wagon and I think we have as much fun as anybody with their big dollar stuff!!!

Curt Rees · 12-17-2009, 06:59 AM

Ryan Smith for President, 2012.

#5457

Curt Rees

Dale Shannon · 12-17-2009, 09:22 AM

wagon boy, you say you havebeen racing for 15yrs? I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.Times have changed over the years, just maybe everybody can't run stock and super stock anymore.

442OLDS · 12-17-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.

Which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

X-TECH MAN · 12-17-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 442olds

which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

corvette

Chad Rhodes · 12-17-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

corvette

nah, cobalt ss

Bobby DiDomenico · 12-17-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

The one that doesn't come from the factory with antifreeze in it?

Bobby Zlatkin · 12-17-2009, 11:46 AM

Dale Shannon said:
"I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under".

Gosh, I wish I'd known this five years ago. It sure would have saved me alot of time and hard work. Not a whole lot of money though because I love trying to see what I can do with what I got. I do realize that there are certain aftermarket things you have to have.

Used to be all you had to do was pick a good combination, buy headers, tires and a lower gear and you were competitive in stock. It takes a whole lot more than that now.

art leong · 12-17-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

In 1988 Chrysler sold 500 Shadow CSX turbo car complete with 5 speed manual tranny. To Thrifty rent a car.
Every 1988 Shadow CSX started life as a rental car. And they could go.

That is what got me back to racing NHRA.

12-17-2009, 02:14 AM	#1
wagonboy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 54 Likes: 7 Liked 26 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Michael Beard for president. Jody as vice pres. I am new on here, and new to stock. I have been racing for over 15 years and have wanted a stocker for forever and a day. I finally have one, it does not run under yet,but I am working on it, and it will, even if the index drops. Here is what I gather from reading all this. If you are not fast but can drive your *** off, the go fast guys don't like it. Not all the fast guys/gals feel this way, but why not encourage participation. Who cares how much effort it takes to get at or under the index now, it still takes a bit of work and money even to get .2 under. There are people willing to jump in, but how "hard" do you want to make it. Get car counts up and s/ss healthy, then tweak the rules. If I had to get 1 second under for index, I would work until I was there, of course I would be 89 years old, senile, wearing a diaper and not racing. I don't see how prolonging the ability for people to get started in the class can benefit the class. Maybe it will keep the prestige, but what is prestigious about a dying class. How prestigious will it be when it is gone ? Nice to meet all of you. Ryan Smith - 723R

12-17-2009, 04:23 AM	#2
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,736 Likes: 2,808 Liked 2,488 Times in 698 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Good post and spot on Wagon Boy!!! We run an old Dodge Pickup and an old Wagon and I think we have as much fun as anybody with their big dollar stuff!!!

12-17-2009, 06:59 AM	#3
Curt Rees Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ft. Pierre, SD Posts: 357 Likes: 426 Liked 251 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Ryan Smith for President, 2012. #5457 Curt Rees __________________ Curt Rees 5457 SS

12-17-2009, 09:22 AM	#4
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? wagon boy, you say you havebeen racing for 15yrs? I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.Times have changed over the years, just maybe everybody can't run stock and super stock anymore.

12-17-2009, 11:46 AM	#9
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Dale Shannon said: "I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under". Gosh, I wish I'd known this five years ago. It sure would have saved me alot of time and hard work. Not a whole lot of money though because I love trying to see what I can do with what I got. I do realize that there are certain aftermarket things you have to have. Used to be all you had to do was pick a good combination, buy headers, tires and a lower gear and you were competitive in stock. It takes a whole lot more than that now. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

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