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Old 12-17-2009, 01:27 PM   #1
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If I could afford to buy one, I'd prefer just a BIW. I have the 3rd BIW Olds Ciera produced by FJ. I currently run it in SS/CS with a 30 year old "Corporate" Small Block. As I said, if I could afford it, I'd love to get a 2010 Camaro BIW. I'd hand it over to my chassis builder (Darryl Smith Racecars) and let him do his magic.

Oh well, a guy can always dream!
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:43 AM   #2
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If this happens it will open a lot of doors.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:43 AM   #3
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These latest generation Camaros will end up being great racecars....just wait a bit. NHRA gave Ford and Mopar pretty much what they wanted, specs-wise, so Chevy should get the same treatment....let's see. WJ
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I would buy a Camaro if it was complete like the Ford's! And GM wouldn't have to worry about me storing it away as a collector piece.....I'd race the wheels off the thing! Make mine silver with black strips please. Tom Nolan SS GT/AA 6015
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These latest generation Camaros will end up being great racecars....just wait a bit. NHRA gave Ford and Mopar pretty much what they wanted, specs-wise, so Chevy should get the same treatment....let's see. WJ
A assume that was sarcastic...

Chevy will get the same treatment when they start giving away trucks...
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:40 PM   #6
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Actually, I spoke with people from Ford, GM, and Chrysler at the PRI show. They all want to see more of the new cars racing. It also seems that the NHRA wants a three way battle.

Because of GM's financial situation their road is a harder one to climb. You can imagine what it would take to get this approved. The first step is to prove that they can actually sell these cars if they are built. History tells that there were 69 Camaros built in 1969 that proved very hard to sell due to their high price tag and exotic race motor! Hopefully the collector status of those cars will help the new cars sell.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:46 PM   #7
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In the December 4th issue of National Dragster, there is a mention in "Bits from the Pits" about a Dodge Challenger package car at Glendora Dodge being offered at $45,000.

If the Camaro was at this price point, I might be able to find a way, especially if GMAC would finance the purchase.
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I think this would be a great idea. I wish they would do this.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:19 PM   #9
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As someone involved in the fielding of a new Challenger Drag Pak, I too would be interested to see this, I like Mopars but Ill be completley honest Id run anything that could/would be competitive.

I would think it would be easier to "run up the flag pole" than many think. Someone just have to have the DESIRE inside GM, Dodge had that with the people that made the Drag Pak happen (dont forget this was BEFORE ford, although it took longer to get out and anyone woulda liked) They took orders first, when the orders were filled then they decided to and built the cars, after the orders were filled.

GM Could do this if they had someone inside willing to make it happen, the OTHER option, is for a big tuner, Hurst, hell someone with about 5 million bucks could make a 50 car program happen. (thats COSTING the cars at over 100k each) 50 cars even priced at 125-130 if they are ready to race will sell out first day, just like the Challys and the SCJs, people WILL pay it. Tuner cars are legit as long as they meet the same criteria, the could do a deal with GM to buy the bodies, co-brand the cars, and there is ZERO out of pocket risk for GM, ZERO. Downside ? None, upside ? All kinds of free press for really doing nothing more than supplying BIW's and some castings.

If I had a spare 3-5 million I would be all over this in a hearbeat, there is a potential if they are sourced cost effectivly to make a 100% profit if you could cost the cars at 50k, 20 for a well built engine from a respected builder, another 15k for cage and suspension work, say 10 for the BIW and other stock parts, costing and another 5k for tranny. Sell them for 100k everyone is happy, and there is a 3 car field...

Cmon GM fans make this happen....or someone loan me 3.5 mil and Ill make it happen.

This isnt rocket science....at least it dosent seem like it to me.


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Actually, I spoke with people from Ford, GM, and Chrysler at the PRI show. They all want to see more of the new cars racing. It also seems that the NHRA wants a three way battle.

Because of GM's financial situation their road is a harder one to climb. You can imagine what it would take to get this approved. The first step is to prove that they can actually sell these cars if they are built. History tells that there were 69 Camaros built in 1969 that proved very hard to sell due to their high price tag and exotic race motor! Hopefully the collector status of those cars will help the new cars sell.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:43 PM   #10
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Drooze,

The desire is there, but building Stock Eliminator cars is not a management priority at the moment. If this happens it will be because it makes good business sense.

My understanding is that GM likes the Ford approach better than the Challengers "kit" packaging. It is pretty obvious that most of the first batch of Mustangs have been put away. I would bet that a higher percentage of the Challengers will actually get raced. Maybe there is a place right in the middle that would put the price where racers would buy them and not just collectors?

Time will tell.

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