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If an observation by a member of an "association" pi$$es someone off enough that he disgards the letter then that person does not belong in a position to even be reading the letter. Unprofessional to say the least but that is the way this whole deal has been handled.
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You catch more flies with honey than vinegar and that first sentence is a whole lot of vinegar. I agree with Jeff....lighten it up.
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Seems to me the "honey" method has been tried for years. So, how's that "honey" thing workin out for ya? Jim
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This is in response to those that think that the opening statement might be a bit harsh.
Normally I would send a letter with wording that would be understandable to the reader, direct, but yet tactful in its presentation, and most of all in a professional manner. The time that I have written to NHRA was concerning HP ratings for my car and a couple of other cars in U/SA. I presented them with charts, graphs, and data clearly showing the disparities between them. Never heard a word from them, and those combos went on to be #1 qualifiers at numerous events. I have always treated NHRA and it employees with respect. I have performed youth clinics at area high schools before the Youth & Education Services was created. I have worked with that service in its initial stages. If you look back at all the bashing post against NHRA you will notice that I have not done so. If you would like you can ask Wesley, Travis, anyone who knows me in tech, the safety people, announcers, or anybody else, I do not bash NHRA. I remember when Jeff Tueton started a committee, I recall the recent SRAC, I have heard of groups that have presented NHRA with possible solutions and communications. How many times have you heard about the head that was legal next to a slightly modified one and a tech guy was overruled. Or other questionable components. What about the times that someone has posted about "Glendora" or "Danny" showing some possible favoritism. How about a manufacturer showcasing their newest "production" car with desirable components. Or their disclosure of HP ratings or available parts. Then the individuals who make adjustments and horsepower determinations come up with a solution that just buffers the problem by lowering the indexes. And I realize that alot of people wanted it, but it did not resolve the problem. So, after witnessing so many things, reading about all the injustices, hearing all the nonsense, I felt compelled to write to NHRA. Understand when I started typing, the words just flowed out, as it appeared to me that somehow they have been influenced by either corporations, friends, organizations, or people who can benefit their well being in unconventional ways. It was the only possible answer. So I addressed it as so. Looking back, maybe I should have done it in a professional manner, but in reality, it was necessary. For those who took offense, I apologize. I just want our sport to succeed and and let the racers run their cars out within a level playing field. I am sending this response to NHRA also. Ron Ortiz U/SA #2102
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No offense taken....but you took the letter from a business letter and made it a personal attack. Porbably will not be received and reviewed with much enthusiasm.
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Not a personal attack, just an observation and suggestion. The results will probably be the same as before.
Ron Ortiz U/SA waitig
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RON... you need to send a HP reduction request since you got screwed when the early cars with the better carb got YOU hit with HP... send it today - contact Roy Dean for more info and another letter sent same time
you are right, but they can stuff all the AHFS up thier ***** couse it will never work... just give us a HP committee with woodro, provoast, travis, wesley...you get the idea engine guys with sense tech guys with balls... and let the chips fall where they may...if fords end up in SS so be it... travis tossed em at indy ! jack
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