CJ engine options and HP ratings.

[69Cobra]

Originally Posted by Dave Ficacci

620 at the wheels.
I don't make that at the crank.

That dyno is out of calibration.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by 69Cobra

That dyno is out of calibration.

Which one? Are you sure? Because the dyno numbers sure match the performance so far.

[69Cobra]

Yeah you're talking about a speed shop that make the dyno read what ever they want by a stroke of a few keys. Look customer your car came in making 500 hp and now it makes 600 hp and all we did was change the tune (and the DA on the dyno) and look we made you 100 hp more. BTW here's your bill for $1,000 have a good day.

[Charley Downing]

$100,000 to build a new cj is a little high. And the year has everything to do with it you just don't get it. As far as dyno numbers go what do you think a good LS1 makes for power? I know for a fact some LS1 make over 535hp and there rated at 373hp. If the cj makes somewhere around600hp and is rated at 435hp it's really not that far out of line.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

$100,000 to build a new cj is a little high. And the year has everything to do with it you just don't get it. As far as dyno numbers go what do you think a good LS1 makes for power? I know for a fact some LS1 make over 535hp and there rated at 373hp. If the cj makes somewhere around600hp and is rated at 435hp it's really not that far out of line.

The Cobra Jet makes over 700HP at the flywheel.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by 69Cobra

Yeah you're talking about a speed shop that make the dyno read what ever they want by a stroke of a few keys. Look customer your car came in making 500 hp and now it makes 600 hp and all we did was change the tune (and the DA on the dyno) and look we made you 100 hp more. BTW here's your bill for $1,000 have a good day.

Really? Gee, I know nothing about dynos, I've only been operating them for 20 years or so.

You can make a dyno lie, but it is hard to fool the clocks at a drag strip.

[Dave Ficacci]

Originally Posted by 69Cobra

Yeah you're talking about a speed shop that make the dyno read what ever they want by a stroke of a few keys. Look customer your car came in making 500 hp and now it makes 600 hp and all we did was change the tune (and the DA on the dyno) and look we made you 100 hp more. BTW here's your bill for $1,000 have a good day.

So basically you are saying JDM has no integrity and they lie to there customers? Is that your stance on JDM?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by 69Cobra

Yeah you're talking about a speed shop that make the dyno read what ever they want by a stroke of a few keys. Look customer your car came in making 500 hp and now it makes 600 hp and all we did was change the tune (and the DA on the dyno) and look we made you 100 hp more. BTW here's your bill for $1,000 have a good day.

That is a Dynojet dyno, you can't screw with the numbers as much as you seem to think. You can Mustang dynos, and some others, but no big changes with a Dynojet. The times those car run, that dyno is pretty close if not dead nuts. I don't think you should try to taint that shop's rep that way. They aren't known for that kind of crap.

[69Cobra]

Man you guys need to relax. I was trying to make a funny but you guy take everything to heart. I know Big Jimmy and Little Jimmy and they are straight up guys I respect what the they do for the Ford community. My point to all of this was to dyno every combo and factor them accordingly. Now everybody is bitching about the cj's but I wonder if the 396 combos and the LS combos were dyno'd in front of the world just how far off their factored hp would be from real world. Now I know that there's not a chevy guy out there that has the balls to run there combo all out -1.3ish under and then take it straight to the dyno for the world to see just how far off their factored hp is from their real world. So you guys just keep bitching cuz thats the easiest thing to do. Merry Christmas everyone.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by 69Cobra

Man you guys need to relax. I was trying to make a funny but you guy take everything to heart. I know Big Jimmy and Little Jimmy and they are straight up guys I respect what the they do for the Ford community. My point to all of this was to dyno every combo and factor them accordingly. Now everybody is bitching about the cj's but I wonder if the 396 combos and the LS combos were dyno'd in front of the world just how far off their factored hp would be from real world. Now I know that there's not a chevy guy out there that has the balls to run there combo all out -1.3ish under and then take it straight to the dyno for the world to see just how far off their factored hp is from their real world. So you guys just keep bitching cuz thats the easiest thing to do. Merry Christmas everyone.

Make a funny? I don't think anyone will buy that line. Tell you what, I'll bet you the CJ is about 100HP further off from their factor than any 396 or 427. And 1.3 under? The CJ will run 1.5 under, off the gas at 1000 feet. The Challenger will run 1.4 under in bracket mode, easily.