Think about this.........

[JMatt]

Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin

"Broad shoulders holding up a pinhead". That's very funny Ed.

Mr. Indy-noname, you know you're a real ***** don't you?
I tried so hard to keep out of this mud slinging, but I can't keep my mouth shut any longer.
Mr Indy-noname, tell us of your accomplishments please, we would like to hear of them instead of your just taking pot shots at us.

Obvously you "don't get it" about seeing that potential in a slow car and trying to squeez all you can out of it within a structured set of peramiters rather than an "anything goes" type of format.

I have no accomplishments. You're better than me.

[nopwradders]

I have a question regarding the "new" cars of S/SS. Or any fuel injected car for that matter. When is NHRA going to regulate the rules so that these guys have to run factory computers? I mean no "tune" or "tuning" with a lap top in the pits? I know a local Mustang that runs in one of these classes that has had the book thrown at it as far as the "tune" in the "factory" computer. I mean doesnt NHRa need to put a limit on this?

Just asking. I know the rules say OEM computers allowed. But has the NHRA looked into what tune can be applied and still be "stock"? Thats the question.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by nopwradders

I have a question regarding the "new" cars of S/SS. Or any fuel injected car for that matter. When is NHRA going to regulate the rules so that these guys have to run factory computers? I mean no "tune" or "tuning" with a lap top in the pits? I know a local Mustang that runs in one of these classes that has had the book thrown at it as far as the "tune" in the "factory" computer. I mean doesnt NHRa need to put a limit on this?

Just asking. I know the rules say OEM computers allowed. But has the NHRA looked into what tune can be applied and still be "stock"? Thats the question.

changing the tune in the computer on a N/A EFI motor is equal to changing carb jets, squirters, etc, and adjusting the timing. they don't regulate any of that on the carbureted cars, why would they do it on the EFI cars?

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Ok....then what ? I can tune several comuters from a touch screen in the
car, VE tables across the board....no laptop.

The rules in STOCK are VERY clear, OEM-Type Aftermarket is allowed as long as its NHRA approved. These boxes are usually universal in nature and can be loaded with software for any engine the ECU is capable of.

You change your timing by turning your distibutor, I change mine with a setting in the computer. Same thing exactly, you have counterweights for your curve, I have a table in data.....your technology is 100 years old....litterally..

So you are handicapping FI cars saying they need to run factory timing, but carb cars dont ? You can use bigger jets in your carb but we cant send different signals to our injectors ?

Maybe you arent familiar with what can and cannot be accomplished with a "tune" its just that....you can do it BEYOND factory specs, we cant ?

Most factory computers have to be "cracked" some cant be, so the only option to run and be able to adjust these items, in some cases even tranny shifting is by using an aftermarket ECU......

It would be a great way to handicap them and give the old iron a longer competitive lifespan, but I dont see it as either representitive of Stock cars or something the NHRA wants to do (i.e. limit cars to only pre 1990 status)


I can

Originally Posted by nopwradders

I have a question regarding the "new" cars of S/SS. Or any fuel injected car for that matter. When is NHRA going to regulate the rules so that these guys have to run factory computers? I mean no "tune" or "tuning" with a lap top in the pits? I know a local Mustang that runs in one of these classes that has had the book thrown at it as far as the "tune" in the "factory" computer. I mean doesnt NHRa need to put a limit on this?

Just asking. I know the rules say OEM computers allowed. But has the NHRA looked into what tune can be applied and still be "stock"? Thats the question.

[randy wilson]

anyone who does not respect the grumpy old men on here who have helped create the mystic of s/ss lost my respect. some of these old men got more miles on them backing up after a burnout than some do going down the track!

[Bob Don]

Originally Posted by Indyracer

I have no accomplishments. You're better than me.

I was going to say something but sometimes "grumpy old men" have the wisdom to know when to keep their mouths shut.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Indyracer

I have no accomplishments. You're better than me.

We're no better nor worse than you.We approach racing differently.I get alot of satisfaction making an "old man's" car go fast for what it is.It's gratifying when people see
a straight 6 with a "go cart" carb and and they are surprised it went as fast as it did.
You choose to go fast,guided by mostly safety rules.Apples and oranges.

[JMatt]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

We're no better nor worse than you.We approach racing differently.I get alot of satisfaction making an "old man's" car go fast for what it is.It's gratifying when people see
a straight 6 with a "go cart" carb and and they are surprised it went as fast as it did.
You choose to go fast,guided by mostly safety rules.Apples and oranges.

Thanks Ed. I can respect that response and your brand of racing.
At least you didn't take a random potshot at me.

And yes - I go fast mostly constrained by safety rules. Anyone else get a new helmet and fireproof clothing for Christmas (adding a layer of CarbonX underneath the firesuit this year)?