Think about this.........

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Urraco

Very true. People dont want to see bracket racing and sandbagging at national events, but what is the answer?

Top Stock. times 3 seperate wt breaks and Top S/S times 3. Heads up like it used to be. Well.....you asked......lol

[Dick Butler]

X-Tech,
You are 100% correct. The only way to make it a show is to make it less politically correct. Not everyone, not every combo, not every budget . True but hard to reverse todays trend to Expensive Bracket cars, inexpensive odd balls, and bogus cars that run fast on paper or on the brakes.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

X-Tech,
You are 100% correct. The only way to make it a show is to make it less politically correct. Not everyone, not every combo, not every budget . True but hard to reverse todays trend to Expensive Bracket cars, inexpensive odd balls, and bogus cars that run fast on paper or on the brakes.

Dick, let us not forget what I personally feel is the most important (and destructive) trend! The total disregard of the rules and the total lack of enforcement!

[Dick Butler]

Billy, I agree with the tech issues. Continually allowing more and more formerly illegal parts, procedures is just about as frustrating as finding out someone had them BEFORE they are legal and allow to WIN with them.
Crank Drilling, Head porting with acid, Cam specs, Injector specs and Turbo Boost.
Most if not all result of having rules to be in place , then addressing infractions with new rules not enforcement of RULES. Result more and more cost to win less and less money.
(But the goal is accomplished-No one is left out so they can return and pay entry and run brackets again)("Its only Dial in anyway")

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

("Its only Dial in anyway")

When I was in the final of the Sportsnationals,I seem to remember it being a heads up race.Don't know what you are refering to as "Dial In Anyway?"

Also,according to my Nitro Joe's Stats which arrived yesterday,there were 1550 total cars (Just in Stock Eliminator alone) that made passes at NHRA events last year.

There must be something that is interesting about this class for that many drivers to compete.

What is the big problem?

[JMatt]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

When I was in the final of the Sportsnationals,I seem to remember it being a heads up race.Don't know what you are refering to as "Dial In Anyway?"

Also,according to my Nitro Joe's Stats which arrived yesterday,there were 1550 total cars (Just in Stock Eliminator alone) that made passes at NHRA events last year.

There must be something that is interesting about this class for that many drivers to compete.

What is the big problem?

1550? There's 51 classes in Stock. So that's about 30 cars per class on average. There's 7 NHRA regions, so that's about 4 cars in any given class per region. Obviously some classes attract more cars, some less. There's many combos with one or zero cars at any given race.

So one one hand, yes - what is inherently wrong with racing that attracts 1550 cars? On the other hand, what is good about racing that attracts 2 people to a particular combo in a country of 300,000,000 people?

[Urraco]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

When I was in the final of the Sportsnationals,I seem to remember it being a heads up race.Don't know what you are refering to as "Dial In Anyway?"

Also,according to my Nitro Joe's Stats which arrived yesterday,there were 1550 total cars (Just in Stock Eliminator alone) that made passes at NHRA events last year.

There must be something that is interesting about this class for that many drivers to compete.

What is the big problem?

The problem is that it is still just a bracket race 99% of the time.

[Dick Butler]

And my quote about "its only Dial in anyway" was spoken to me by a highly respected TECH man in the lanes at a Div race. As long as the racing is dial in as a magority of the meets the rules will be poorly followed ( it doesnt hurt to cheat because you dial in anyway)
I have had guys tell me they ran a Bracket motor for points meets so they didnt hurt the "good one" for nationals, or it was being rebuilt, "I have to dial in anyway"
Terry is correct , Top/Stk and TOP/SS could be a winner again now factory money is producing cars, racers are smelling Blood of a fast new car. If only NHRA would more correctly monitor the factoring and construction to keep the competition alive not just DOMINANT.
Dial in is fun but there are racers who appreciate accomplishment of WINNING a class populated by strong racers, equal cars and fair rules.. THAT IS CLASS RACING
SS/AH is an example of the idea but it has turned into a Pro class due to rule "evolution" rather than rule "Enforcement"

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Also,according to my Nitro Joe's Stats which arrived yesterday,there were 1550 total cars (Just in Stock Eliminator alone) that made passes at NHRA events last year.

Maybe 1550 DRIVERS.......but how many actual cars ???

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

the 1550 is the number for each class that was ran in 2009. One driver and car could of ran 4 classes in 2009 so it would have him or her counted 4 times in there. I do this just to let people know how many different cars ran each class throughout the year.
Hope this will make you understand the 1550 number.