Clutchless transmission permitted in S/S

[dwydendorf]

Another case of NHRA shooting themselves in the foot. More money spent on clutchless transmissions equals less money to spend going to races which equals lower car counts at the points meets and less popular national events. Most racers are just average Joes with limited budgets and if you have to spend money on parts, you dont have as much traveling money. Some times many of their decisions aren't too well thought out.

[Stocker 449]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

Another case of NHRA shooting themselves in the foot. More money spent on clutchless transmissions equals less money to spend going to races which equals lower car counts at the points meets and less popular national events. Most racers are just average Joes with limited budgets and if you have to spend money on parts, you dont have as much traveling money. Some times many of their decisions aren't too well thought out.

I agree with you 100%. I believe that if people want to spend this type of money in a sort of "stock/super stock class" that the factory experimental category would thrive one again.

[bubski]

economic stimulus for transmission mfgs that about it as far as money goes look in pits the lowest classed stocker to the first time guys crude s/st car[no offense] most of them have more in tow rigs than average joe has in his house. they dont care about the potential expenditures on the competitors and why shoud they when all they see is cubic$$$$$

[randy wilson]

i do not think they should get rid of auto weight breaks, i still think a clutch car is quicker than an auto, espescially a 2 speed. comp cars get 250 and indexes are virtually the same, tell me why and where i am wrong.we ran a 9.5 car with 2 speed and it was .26 slower than our 11 lbs. 4 speed car , and yes we were using the clutch between each gear, and .35 slower going clutchless , same exact engine combo. let the games begin.

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

were the weight break should change is in SS/AH, either everybody races at 3210 or 3170, personally i think if the weight doesn't get changed you will see a bunch of sticks in Cuda's & Darts.
It's been proven these transmissions are fast and maybe faster now

ps I don't like the rule change, but I'm just a fan.

[Mike Dahl]

Randy,

The national records are as follows and I would respectfully submit this is our best barometer for comparing potential performance .

SS/A 8.78 SS/AA 8.61
SS/B 8.97 SS/BA 8.84
SS/C 9.18 SS/CA 9.00
SS/D 9.28 SS/DA 9.12
SS/E 9.48 SS/EA 9.04
SS/F 9.59 SS/FA 9.26
SS/G 9.48 SS/GA 9.53
SS/H 9.74 SS/HA 9.63
SS/I 9.76 SS/IA 9.54
SS/J 9.94 SS/JA 9.93

So, if you remove SS/E & SS/F from the list to create a truer median #, you still have the automatics with a .116/sec advantage, yet there is at least a .1 index advantage for the autos and in some cases .2 Really?

I would have done a GT comparison, but there are too many minimums. I suppose it must be because the sticks are so attractive to everyone.

I always hear how if somebody put a stick in their car it would go faster, but clearly the records tell a different tale. I think most people would be sorely disappointed after losing a tenth on the index, losing their radial tires and having the overwhelming joy of learning how to work on their clutches.

P.S. The clutchless tranmission is worth .02 NOT .1. Even up the indexes and let's race. Seriously, why not?

[bubski]

well put Mike some of those autos that are not as fast as sticks may be so to keep their hp factor safe as their indexes are substantially slower. MAKE EM ALL THE SAME AND LETS GET IT ON.

[acme383]

Originally Posted by mike dahl

randy,

the national records are as follows and i would respectfully submit this is our best barometer for comparing potential performance .

Ss/a 8.78 ss/aa 8.61
ss/b 8.97 ss/ba 8.84
ss/c 9.18 ss/ca 9.00
ss/d 9.28 ss/da 9.12
ss/e 9.48 ss/ea 9.04
ss/f 9.59 ss/fa 9.26
ss/g 9.48 ss/ga 9.53
ss/h 9.74 ss/ha 9.63
ss/i 9.76 ss/ia 9.54
ss/j 9.94 ss/ja 9.93

so, if you remove ss/e & ss/f from the list to create a truer median #, you still have the automatics with a .116/sec advantage, yet there is at least a .1 index advantage for the autos and in some cases .2 really?

I would have done a gt comparison, but there are too many minimums. I suppose it must be because the sticks are so attractive to everyone.

I always hear how if somebody put a stick in their car it would go faster, but clearly the records tell a different tale. I think most people would be sorely disappointed after losing a tenth on the index, losing their radial tires and having the overwhelming joy of learning how to work on their clutches.

P.s. The clutchless tranmission is worth .02 not .1. Even up the indexes and let's race. Seriously, why not?

amen brother!