New Tech Rules

[Joe Pinkston]

What happened if someone refused to sign the enviromental waiver? I read about it on another site and one racer said he was advised by his attorney not to sign it. I have posted the question on that board asking if he indeed did not sign it, but haven't gotten a answer yet. I noticed for the reports on DRC that he did race.




Hey Dan Moore, you're #1.

RIP Mark Graham

[Chuck Westcott]

Well you either sign it and turn it with your tech card or you don't race as i understood it.
I signed it and no further questions !

[Joe Pinkston]

Here is what was posted by the S/C racer on another message board.


"Any of you guys ever heard of this deal?

We bought tech cards today for the LODRS Div 2 event and got a form we are SUPPOSED TO SIGN before we can race that deals with oil and hazardous materials disposal.

Basically, there is NO DISPOSAL available at event so if you drain your oil you have to take it back on the highways with you, no brake cleaner or carb cleaner cans can be thrown away, etc, etc, you have to keep them in your posession.


To quote the form we got: This is a short version:
"There will be a $1000.00 fine for violation of these rules". "Any breaking of these rules will result in prosecution to the fullest extent of the LAW".

Then above the signature line it says:

"I have read, understand and agree to the above"

Another "Welcome Wagon Treat from NHRA or what?"

My attorney says do not sign it. It creates several serious personal liability issues. One example: What if someone throws a empty oil bottle or Brake Cleaner can in the garbage can next to my trailer. The NHRA trash inspectors find it and say it must be mine. NOW WHAT? I say it isn't they say it is, I get fined $1000 and where does the appeal process start.

What if the EPA finds a large amount of oil spilled on the ground and can't prove who did it; does everyone who signed the form become partially responsible??"



Like I said, he has not responded yet with the answer stating that he did sign the form or not.




Hey Dan Moore, you're #1.

RIP Mark Graham

[slow dragster]

Parachutes must have their own independent mounting with sleeved 3/8 inch
minimum steel bolts or steel pins required for all applications. Shroud line(s) mounting
brackets must be constructed of minimum .090-inch steel. Safety pins must be
red flagged and removed prior to burnout. The use of ball-lock pins for parachute
mounting prohibited. See Class Requirements regarding use of two parachutes. Such
applications require separate shroud-line mounting points for each parachute system.

This is the amended version as of Feb 8th 2010.

The way I read it a 3/8 steel bolt with a sleeve is the minimum size. It says nothing about using a larger bolt. The bolt must be steel. .090 is the thickness of your welded brace the bolt runs through.
The older rule prior to the amendment would have affected hundreds if not thousands of race cars.

[Chris Williams]

Phew! That's better.

[R&S Motorsports]

Originally Posted by slow dragster

Parachutes must have their own independent mounting with sleeved 3/8 inch
minimum steel bolts or steel pins required for all applications. Shroud line(s) mounting
brackets must be constructed of minimum .090-inch steel. Safety pins must be
red flagged and removed prior to burnout. The use of ball-lock pins for parachute
mounting prohibited. See Class Requirements regarding use of two parachutes. Such
applications require separate shroud-line mounting points for each parachute system.

This is the amended version as of Feb 8th 2010.

The way I read it a 3/8 steel bolt with a sleeve is the minimum size. It says nothing about using a larger bolt. The bolt must be steel. .090 is the thickness of your welded brace the bolt runs through.

The older rule prior to the amendment would have affected hundreds if not thousands of race cars.

So is the .090 the same for CM or MS, If you use a slip tube do they count the thickness of both tubes, or do they want a sleeve inside of the slip tube???? this is quite vague does anyone really know??

[63corvette]

Originally Posted by R&S Motorsports

So is the .090 the same for CM or MS, If you use a slip tube do they count the thickness of both tubes, or do they want a sleeve inside of the slip tube???? this is quite vague does anyone really know??

I am not sure even the Tech people know for sure what the rules are yet.
I tried to pin down the tech people last fall at Las Vegas and Pamona at the last two races of the year to get a read on what I needed to do if anything. The Division 7 people just read it out of the dragster and said that was it. When I asked specifically about a loose sleeve around the bolt they told me the sleeve was for the welded part inside another tube which did not seem quite right to me. I fabricated a loose sleeve for my 1/2" bolt which has a T handle on it for quick removal. I am not sure the T handle will fly so I am carrying a regular grade 8 bolt to replace the T handle if they want it replaced.
I would think it will vary from race to race for awhile until everyone in the Tech groups gets on the same page.
Just My 2 Cents

[Chuck Westcott]

I went ahead and picked up a 1/2 in Grade 8 Nut and bolt and a sleeve spacer that they said I needed, I'll put in on after I get to Gainesville today prior to Tech.

[Kent Hanley]

Originally Posted by Joe Pinkston

Here is what was posted by the S/C racer on another message board.


"Any of you guys ever heard of this deal?

We bought tech cards today for the LODRS Div 2 event and got a form we are SUPPOSED TO SIGN before we can race that deals with oil and hazardous materials disposal.

Basically, there is NO DISPOSAL available at event so if you drain your oil you have to take it back on the highways with you, no brake cleaner or carb cleaner cans can be thrown away, etc, etc, you have to keep them in your posession.


To quote the form we got: This is a short version:
"There will be a $1000.00 fine for violation of these rules". "Any breaking of these rules will result in prosecution to the fullest extent of the LAW".

Then above the signature line it says:

"I have read, understand and agree to the above"

Another "Welcome Wagon Treat from NHRA or what?"

My attorney says do not sign it. It creates several serious personal liability issues. One example: What if someone throws a empty oil bottle or Brake Cleaner can in the garbage can next to my trailer. The NHRA trash inspectors find it and say it must be mine. NOW WHAT? I say it isn't they say it is, I get fined $1000 and where does the appeal process start.

What if the EPA finds a large amount of oil spilled on the ground and can't prove who did it; does everyone who signed the form become partially responsible??"



Like I said, he has not responded yet with the answer stating that he did sign the form or not.




Hey Dan Moore, you're #1.

RIP Mark Graham

I wonder what happens if you oil the track down or have a tranny leak ?

[Michael Pliska]

Originally Posted by Kent Hanley

I wonder what happens if you oil the track down or have a tranny leak ?

Maybe you now have to take the oil-laden grease sweep with you?