Tough Night

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

Well after supper I decided to pick up a friend of mine and head over to his shop where we have been housing our Stocker project getting it ready for paint. When we arrived we noticed the side door open. Once we entered we found the car, new moser rear end, two 305 bare blocks and numerous tools and other parts had been stolen. After talking to the sherrifs office we were informed that the stuff is probably heading up north to the NY area or west to the Texas area. This project was a 87 Monte Carlo SS that is in primer and sealer. The interior was removed for paint but they took that too. It has warlock wheels with new hoosiers all the way around. The frame was powder coated black and the jambs were already painted candy rasberry. Please if you see this car let me know. This project was being done by kids from 3 local schools and my daughter and myself. We have worked really hard to educate these kids on class racing and they were so excited to get the car so close to completion. We are trying to find some pictures from cell phones as the digital camera was in the shop for record purposes and that is gone too. If anyone has a 84 to 88 monte or cutlass that they could donate or sell really cheap it would also be helpful. Please let us know. All information will be kept confidential.

I have held commenting on this until now, because well having stuff stolen (ESPECIALLY for the kids) is just sickening, its impossible to explain to them why someone would do it, its sad, it changes a persons perspective forever. I have had things stolen and now well, I am 38 yrsold and understand to some degree why people steal a)theyre lazy dirtbags b)maybe in a real bad spot and need to feed the family c)are just thieves d)do it for the thrill e)cant make an honest living f)werent raised right, the list goes on and on. But while I agree with none of them I understand it.

To a younger person they cant and it wil jade their perception of people to some degree, try not to let that happen Floyd, let them see you handle it well and their emotions will follow, dont get too negative about the dirtbags that stole it in front of them even though I too would be seething. Shrug it off as a "well they obviously need it more to steal it" and let them know youll built the next one better, the next one is always better because you learn on the first, try somehow to turn it into a positive for them.

You understand I think what Im trying to say.

I do know where theres a complete and rust free Monte (81) for about $800 no title, its in a shop that has been owed money on it for 10 years...lol...they never re-applied for a title. Its just sat inside...its my cousins shop, if he wasnt so broke and needing the money I would ask him to donate it.....but its an "option" I guess, Ill root around if there is anything I can think or find SBC and GM Ill ask you if you can use it.

Ill also keep an eye out, but I dont see it ending up here, Ebay and CL though.

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by drooze

I do know where theres a complete and rust free Monte (81) for about $800 no title, its in a shop that has been owed money on it for 10 years...lol...they never re-applied for a title. Its just sat inside...its my cousins shop, if he wasnt so broke and needing the money I would ask him to donate it.....but its an "option" I guess, Ill root around if there is anything I can think or find SBC and GM Ill ask you if you can use it.

Ill also keep an eye out, but I dont see it ending up here, Ebay and CL though.

Drooze,

You may well have hit on something here.

Floyd,

What might you need in the way of parts, tools, what not? You could throw a list of stuff on here that you could use? I doubt I have enough spares of anything that you might want but if I did and it's something I don't need. Be glad to donate it. From the response here, probably others that feel like I do.

For that matter, I have a 92 RS Camaro body setting in the driveway, the owner of the car wants the transmission and the t-tops back. My wife promised the driver side mirror to a kid she works with (long story there, LOL). I'm going to use the engine for spare parts. Other than that, I was going to strip it, part it out and scrap it. It's not a cherry by any stretch of the imagination. Wouldn't take a lot of money for me to let it go. Downside for you, I'm in Indiana. Something to consider.

I've dealt with thieves a time or two myself, it sucks.

[Mack Reeves]

I do know where theres a complete and rust free Monte (81) for about $800 no title, its in a shop that has been owed money on it for 10 years...lol...they never re-applied for a title. Its just sat inside...its my cousins shop, if he wasnt so broke and needing the money I would ask him to donate it.....but its an "option" I guess, Ill root around if there is anything I can think or find SBC and GM Ill ask you if you can use it.

Ill also keep an eye out, but I dont see it ending up here, Ebay and CL though.[/QUOTE]

This REALLY sucks... But we can turn this around and teach a good lesson for the kids.... I have $100.00 towards the purchase of the Monte... I challenge all racers here on this site to pony up and lets buy this car for these kids.... Mack Reeves

[Ronnie Hamlin]

This REALLY sucks... But we can turn this around and teach a good lesson for the kids.... I have $100.00 towards the purchase of the Monte... I challenge all racers here on this site to pony up and lets buy this car for these kids.... Mack Reeves[/QUOTE]

Alright, I'll kick in $100.00 also

[Mack Reeves]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Hamlin

This REALLY sucks... But we can turn this around and teach a good lesson for the kids.... I have $100.00 towards the purchase of the Monte... I challenge all racers here on this site to pony up and lets buy this car for these kids.... Mack Reeves

Alright, I'll kick in $100.00 also[/QUOTE]

Alright, we all have read that the younger generation is just interested in the "rice burners" and don't know about our cars NOW is the time to step up... We now have $200.00.... Where are the rest of you??? Time to do more than gripe about the younger generation..... Time to "man up" ( hey you gals, not being sexest but I"M on a roll here).... Don't let these kids down.........

[Floyd Gomez]

Guys. Your response has been overwhelming. It brings tears to my eyes and joy to my heart to be a part of such a tremendous elite group of fellow racers. I cannot thank you enough for all of your support. As far as a list of parts we are basically starting over from scratch. I went today and purchased another tool set from Sears along with a new box. I wanted to show the kids that although we have to start over it is not the end of the world. We did find out that on Sunday around 6pm a white Chevy Dually with a white enclosed trailer was at the shop. The shop is in an industrial are and the guy that spotted the truck just thought it was one of us getting the car and parts. I am thankful they did not approach these guys because we don't know what would have happened. I am also grateful that none of the kids had went by during this time and walked in on them. A life is more important than anything else. I talked to a few of the kids today and we are having a meeting this week to discuss a new project. I told them not to worry because this one would be better than the last and we still have a shot at finishing it this season.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Mack Reeves

Alright, I'll kick in $100.00 also

Alright, we all have read that the younger generation is just interested in the "rice burners" and don't know about our cars NOW is the time to step up... We now have $200.00.... Where are the rest of you??? Time to do more than gripe about the younger generation..... Time to "man up" ( hey you gals, not being sexest but I"M on a roll here).... Don't let these kids down.........[/QUOTE]

Me and the old man are good for $100 each, so that 600 remaining , and 200 (or 300 of that ?) has been commited to here....

How to get it down from Ohio to Florida, (I did say the car has no title but it IS Kosher , his shop is full of cars people owe him money on for the last 20 years lol...youd have to know him....nothing EVERY leaves there)

Not the greatest pics but, well, I was taking pictures of other "junk" around his shop for him about 3 days ago. And snapped these.

Most of the "new stuff" on it would be useless for a stocker I think, Springs, Rear end backing plates, etc. Brake stuff. the like.

I didnt get under it, but its solid, he said rust free and it looks it got some surface on it around the rear wheelwells but its just that. Actually its been sitting since about 95 so thats, 15 years......

But its located in Akron Ohio, I just have no time to haul it to Fla right now ?

[Floyd Gomez]

Originally Posted by drooze

Alright, we all have read that the younger generation is just interested in the "rice burners" and don't know about our cars NOW is the time to step up... We now have $200.00.... Where are the rest of you??? Time to do more than gripe about the younger generation..... Time to "man up" ( hey you gals, not being sexest but I"M on a roll here).... Don't let these kids down.........

Me and the old man are good for $100 each, so that 600 remaining , and 200 (or 300 of that ?) has been commited to here....

How to get it down from Ohio to Florida, (I did say the car has no title but it IS Kosher , his shop is full of cars people owe him money on for the last 20 years lol...youd have to know him....nothing EVERY leaves there)

Not the greatest pics but, well, I was taking pictures of other "junk" around his shop for him about 3 days ago. And snapped these.

Most of the "new stuff" on it would be useless for a stocker I think, Springs, Rear end backing plates, etc. Brake stuff. the like.

I didnt get under it, but its solid, he said rust free and it looks it got some surface on it around the rear wheelwells but its just that. Actually its been sitting since about 95 so thats, 15 years......

But its located in Akron Ohio, I just have no time to haul it to Fla right now ?




[/QUOTE]
Drooze. The car actually looks better than what we originally started with as it was a theft recovery. As far as getting it here not sure on that either. I am not allowed to take my company truck that far but I will talk to a few friends tomorrow. Thank you so much.

[Floyd Gomez]

Chris PM me your number please so we can discuss the Monte

Originally Posted by drooze

I have held commenting on this until now, because well having stuff stolen (ESPECIALLY for the kids) is just sickening, its impossible to explain to them why someone would do it, its sad, it changes a persons perspective forever. I have had things stolen and now well, I am 38 yrsold and understand to some degree why people steal a)theyre lazy dirtbags b)maybe in a real bad spot and need to feed the family c)are just thieves d)do it for the thrill e)cant make an honest living f)werent raised right, the list goes on and on. But while I agree with none of them I understand it.

To a younger person they cant and it wil jade their perception of people to some degree, try not to let that happen Floyd, let them see you handle it well and their emotions will follow, dont get too negative about the dirtbags that stole it in front of them even though I too would be seething. Shrug it off as a "well they obviously need it more to steal it" and let them know youll built the next one better, the next one is always better because you learn on the first, try somehow to turn it into a positive for them.

You understand I think what Im trying to say.

I do know where theres a complete and rust free Monte (81) for about $800 no title, its in a shop that has been owed money on it for 10 years...lol...they never re-applied for a title. Its just sat inside...its my cousins shop, if he wasnt so broke and needing the money I would ask him to donate it.....but its an "option" I guess, Ill root around if there is anything I can think or find SBC and GM Ill ask you if you can use it.

Ill also keep an eye out, but I dont see it ending up here, Ebay and CL though.

[Floyd Gomez]

Well we have recieved a few donations from fellow racers and it is a big help. We are still looking for a car that is clse to South Carolina so if anybody has any leads please let us know. Drooze has a great car but the distance would cost around $1100.00 to get it here. Thanks again for all of your help and support.