Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.

[Dick Butler]

It has ALWAYS been this way in NHRA class racing. To many the challenge is "finding" this advantage then using it to be a winner. That is their thing. I can see them showing NHRA how far off it is. It is also easier for some than actually out working skilled racers.
I have always felt when these situations occur MANY are upset by its unfairness and a group who can afford to jump on it smile while they us the advantage. The group gets bigger and then NHRA "finds"this issue and slowly corrects it. Then the group with the cars gets upset that their advantage has been taken and just moves on again. Result is NHRA keeps the majjority of people upset about something all the time...
Other side. If they Over factored ,No ONe would desert their older cars, No new blood in the eliminations, no factory hand shakes.No special " advantages for the few.

[Greg Hill]

What challenge is there in taking a combination that is under rated by 75-125hp and making it run fast? That garners no respect from anybody. Anyone with lots of money can buy one of these new cars and fly. It doesn't take knowledge, it doesn't take hard work, it doesn't take trying 15 camshafts or 10 converters to pick up a few hundreths. It is immoral for NHRA to rate these crate motors at the hp ratings they have. I will let everyone on here decide whether it's immoral for racers to race them. I will say this if things don't change I think stock and possibly super stock will have substantially reduced numbers in the future.

NHRA changed the rules in stock to allow these cars to compete with no input from stock racers. They [NHRA] do not have our interests in mind. I guess the big question is why they would do something that drastically changes our class with no input from the people who support them? Do any of you think it has to do with money? For all of you Ford guys or Chrysler guys who think this is about brand loyalty, I would be saying the same thing about GM if they did it.

For the engine builders and people who we buy parts from, for the people who we buy trailers and motorhomes from , for the people who we buy racing fuel from, how do you feel about lower numbers of racers competing? How is it going to affect your business?

I really can't understand how long time stock or even super stock racers can condone this.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

What challenge is there in taking a combination that is under rated by 75-125hp and making it run fast? That garners no respect from anybody. Anyone with lots of money can buy one of these new cars and fly. It doesn't take knowledge, it doesn't take hard work, it doesn't take trying 15 camshafts or 10 converters to pick up a few hundreths. It is immoral for NHRA to rate these crate motors at the hp ratings they have. I will let everyone on here decide whether it's immoral for racers to race them. I will say this if things don't change I think stock and possibly super stock will have substantially reduced numbers in the future.

NHRA changed the rules in stock to allow these cars to compete with no input from stock racers. They [NHRA] do not have our interests in mind. I guess the big question is why they would do something that drastically changes our class with no input from the people who support them? Do any of you think it has to do with money? For all of you Ford guys or Chrysler guys who think this is about brand loyalty, I would be saying the same thing about GM if they did it.

For the engine builders and people who we buy parts from, for the people who we buy trailers and motorhomes from , for the people who we buy racing fuel from, how do you feel about lower numbers of racers competing? How is it going to affect your business?

I really can't understand how long time stock or even super stock racers can condone this.

Greg, Bruce Noland and I thumped that "Bible" over a year ago and nothing happened! Nothing is going to happen! The handfull of people that actually care about (what once was) Stock and SS are either too old or too disillusioned to do anything about it!
I don't blame ANY S/SS racer for buying a new combo because THAT is what NHRA wants because THAT is what will pay their bills (in the short term).
I personally don't believe that we will be around for me to "retire" from racing anyway.
Just be thankful that you decided to build popular body styles that you can restore, streetrod or sell to get some of your investment back.
If it sounds like I've given up well, let me just say that I don't believe that ANY NHRA racers will be treated with ANY respect as long as the people that are in charge in the "Ivory Tower" remain there. To them "It's just business".
Gee, maybe next time we (the racers) have a problem with a lane or the pits or a new ruling we should go "in mass" to the tower and explain to them that "It's just OUR business"!