Another bogus hp rating.

[Charley Downing]

Greg come on 290hp. 245hp maybe.

Compare it to a 283ci Chevy like Wade Owens which is rated around 220HP (NHRA). Wade went -1.10 (11.75) at Belle Rose. There is no way the Ford 281ci with a little bigger throttle body and cam can make 75 more hp then say Wade Owens car. The 235 hp 281ci in J/SA is no better the Wades combo in M/SA. Heck I will take it one step further by comparing it to Johnny Fishers 360 dodge. Fisher car ran 11.65 @101mph in K/SA at INDY. Which means he could have ran somewhere around 11.50. I fail to see how this ford combo is any softer then these two combos.
Just so I’am getting your point right. You feel that a 281ci motor will make the same HP as your 350ci motor with a Holley. That is too funny. If that ford motor makes with in 25hp of yours you need to find a new engine builder.

[Fred Popov]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Greg come on 290hp. 245hp maybe.

Compare it to a 283ci Chevy like Wade Owens which is rated around 220HP (NHRA). Wade went -1.10 (11.75) at Belle Rose. There is no way the Ford 281ci with a little bigger throttle body and cam can make 75 more hp then say Wade Owens car. The 235 hp 281ci in J/SA is no better the Wades combo in M/SA. Heck I will take it one step further by comparing it to Johnny Fishers 360 dodge. Fisher car ran 11.65 @101mph in K/SA at INDY. Which means he could have ran somewhere around 11.50. I fail to see how this ford combo is any softer then these two combos.
Just so I’am getting your point right. You feel that a 281ci motor will make the same HP as your 350ci motor with a Holley. That is too funny. If that ford motor makes with in 25hp of yours you need to find a new engine builder.

You should take a look at the flow numbers on these Ford 3 valve heads. (About 225 intake and 190 CFM exhaust ~ Stan Weiss Head Flow Database) Factory stock they flow better than the Chevy LT1s. At these flow numbers these engines are capable of 450+ HP.

[SS Engine Guy]

Have to agree with Greg and Fred here. Small inch comp motors have been flying for years with good heads and alot of gear.

[greg fulk]

My question is who's going to build one? Last I looked no one wants to run those "slow" classes! The trend seems to be C/SA and faster?

[Greg Hill]

Greg, I think Charlie's trying to get one together. That's why he's so defensive about this.

[Charley Downing]

Could be?

That combo is rated the fairest of all the new combos. The 235hp combo is not as good as the 5.? hemi, 352 ford, 428 ford, DP, super CJ or CJ combo. The 281ci 235 motor hp will make around 390hp. And will run an estimated time of 11.20s in I/SA. I have done all the homework on this car and 1.10 under the new index is about all it will go. 10.80s in I/SA is out if the question.

[Evan Smith]

Most small-inch Comp motors, which don't make a lot of torque, don't have to move 3,000-lb.-plus Stockers. The Three-Valve head may flow a lot, but it is still a 281-inch engine and won't make anywhere near the torque of an LT1. A good LT1 make 480-plus hp and 450-plus torque. Anyone who knows how to build a Stock engine knows how important torque is and without cubes it's hard to make torque.

I would guess that 375-400 hp could be achieved with the Three-Valve CJ engine after some R&D. Greg, I would say that a good Stocker engine has to make more than 1.5 times the factored rating to be above average.

The Stock Three-Valve at 300 is a joke and is not competitive. Not NHRA's fault, but people will have to run it and invest in a program before the rating can come down. This engine is very efficient from the factory and will not respond like many other engines. I'll agree that the 235 rating on the CJ version might be a little light, but not by 75-to100hp.