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Old 03-29-2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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Artie,the guys trying to protect their combo would just run the car hard enough to keep away from the trigger.There are the rogues (Fezell comes to mind) that don't seem to care
about the AHFS.But most of the guys into the long run wouldn't fall into that trap.
Just my opinion.
Eddie I was just bringing up the sad point that. You work hard on the car to make it run then you worry about going to fast. Myself included.
And people wonder why we are a dying breed.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:30 AM   #2
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[QUOTE=art leong;178497And people wonder why we are a dying breed.[/QUOTE]

Art, you mean 'cause we are getting older?
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:54 AM   #3
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just run 3 wide put the new mustangs and challengers on the return road they can still win class as fast as they are with the f uped hp they got
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:05 AM   #4
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Still want Bruton Smith to buy NHRA, watch what you wish for.
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Old 03-30-2010, 11:37 AM   #5
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Its amazing how these two types of cars have made so many cars worthless. THe only answer to this is do away with heads up runs during eliminations.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:31 PM   #6
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I think it would be cool to run class 4 wide! What would be wrong with that? Get class in quicker, less runs on your car and done for the day at the track earlier! I had 7 cars in class at Charlotte! That would have been two rounds instead of 4!! They didn't even get to run the final because of weather! So where's the draw back there???

The problem with a lot of you is you are too stubborn to accept change! I'm sure some of the pros bitched about it because they seemed to have problems staging! But I'm sure they were instructed on how to stage, and some were just too bone headed to pick it up! It was fairly simple if you ask me!

Why don't you ask some of our senior racers that may have raced 4 wide back in the day what they think?? Remember, this is not new. They did it at York and Budds Creek!

Bracket racing 4 wide........don't think you'll ever see that! But who knows.
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When the new cars start winning Stock Eliminator then you can throw rocks at them.

But like all racing, until it's run, you don't know who is going to win.

I thought Doug Duell did a great job getting through 4 rounds of eliminations, but it only takes one loss on the way up, to be on the way out.

Cars and drivers, new and old all have a chance. It is what gets done with those chances that makes the difference.....

Frankly, I am still convinced that the older cars with lots of years of runs under them with a driver who is very experienced at getting everything out of them consistently are going to be winning for a long time.

By then, the new stuff will correctly factored, and the world will be back at peace again.

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[QUOTE=Bryan Worner;178637]I think it would be cool to run class 4 wide! What would be wrong with that? Get class in quicker, less runs on your car and done for the day at the track earlier! I had 7 cars in class at Charlotte! That would have been two rounds instead of 4!! They didn't even get to run the final because of weather! So where's the draw back there???

The problem with a lot of you is you are too stubborn to accept change! I'm sure some of the pros bitched about it because they seemed to have problems staging! But I'm sure they were instructed on how to stage, and some were just too bone headed to pick it up! It was fairly simple if you ask me!

Why don't you ask some of our senior racers that may have raced 4 wide back in the day what they think?? Remember, this is not new. They did it at York and Budds Creek
Bracket racing 4 wide........don't think you'll ever see that! But who knows.[/QUOTE

Bryan,You won't see 4 wide racing,except at Zmax and MAYBE Vegas is Money Bags Bruton decides to spend the money.No other track will spend that kind of money on a whimsical proposition.Beside,the insurance hikes to the tracks would be absorbed by you know who,if they could even get that kind of coverage.
The pros have a valid complaint.The current setup now has the possibility of racing the guy you beat twice in the final,and losing to him.How would you like to race under those conditions.It would be like havig buy backs.I know we all would love seeing that in S/SS.
I saw 4 wide racing at NY National in the late 60s and early 70s.Jets,funny cars and the early pro stocks.My memory isn't that clear but I think Ed Eaton also ran some bracket stuff 4 wide.National was a pretty wide track though,but still not very safe.
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Its amazing how these two types of cars have made so many cars worthless. THe only answer to this is do away with heads up runs during eliminations.
This would sure make cheating a lost art. Except for class and records no one would bother unless money came back in for class wins. The $$$$$$ in the game such as we see today would be thrown out the window except for those few with more money than brains (sounds like some on here already) and a BIG ego. . Id vote for it but my vote dosent count....lol. It might come down to it because of the expense of keeping records, the AHFS; up to date engine specs, and GOOD (people who know what this stuff should look like and have no "friends" in the tear down barn) and knowledgeable tech guys like Travis and Dave Ley, etc. It has almost become a lost art to have the love, work ethic and dedication it takes to be a good stock and S/S tech person. OK....so shoot me but thats how I see it today.
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Its amazing how these two types of cars have made so many cars worthless. THe only answer to this is do away with heads up runs during eliminations.
Herb,

Not to stir up the heads up in elimnations "discussion", but what would happen at four wide (what did Wilkerson call it...) where lane 1 is B/SA, lane 2 is W/S, lane 3 is B/SA, and lane 4 is I/SA? Do the 2 B/SA cars have to run each other flat out yet not break out?
Hey, maybe I could get a job with NHRA as Sportsman Czar.....
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