Yet another bogu horsepower factor

[Rich Biebel]

See, we have more in common than you think........Chris

I am 62+ but a very young 62! Except for when my body reminds me how old I really am......and that's every friggen day usually.....

My son was and is a huge 2 wheeler enthusiast.......Built bicyles when he was a kid......he rides everything and anything on 2 wheels.......from bicycles to road racing big rice burners....at places like Pocono, Loudon, 3 Mile Point, NJ Motorsports park.......alll just "club" racing for fun.......He also owned a small Suzuki dealership for a number of years........He is good on a road course and took some pro lessons with some big name Suzuki factory riders teaching..........He scared the bejesus out of me one day when he brought a bike to the race track to drag race. I couldn't watch ! .....He went 10.70's on a Street bike.....a GSXR 750 or a 1000 I think it was. He rides with a very serious group of friends and they have some very cool bikes......

Me.....I'm a H-D type ....a Sportster fits and I am seriously tempted to get one.....but I remind myself about all those stitches I required once upon a time..........

[NewHemi]

Hey Rich...

I could point that since you pulled a quote from Drooze's post that might be the reason he thought your comments were directed at him....But never mind. Now that I know we are about the same age, I can look past all of that.

Hey I am 64, with 65 coming along in a couple of months... I only had one child, a son Chris (Drooze" to you.) We figured out what caused it to happen and quit that immediately. And only having one child, has allowed me to be a young 64/65. In fact I was 62 before I ever had to spend a night in a hospital, and was on absolutely no medications. Then came lung cancer, but as my doctor tells me, I am atypical, responding well to the chemo and a great attitude. I cant do much about how I respond to the chemo, but as for the attitude, the alternative would be to give up , or live....And I chooose to live it up..

Don't worry, be happy..

And to Greg Hill, Drooze had a 10.68 run when he was bouncing off the rev limiters that we had set for the dyno and not removed, in 1rst and second gear, so I guess you might say he made a pretty good pass there. I expect it would have been very low 10s with a higher rev limit.

My best in the car was in the low 11's as I was still getting used to the car. And had we not blown up coming out of the burn out, I imagine we might have gotten back into the 10's.... And with a 5.7 we will be in the low 10's or better...

Do we have good advice to give? Knowing what not to do, is as valuable as knowing what to do. But we also know a lot of what does work. Yes, we have good advice to offer, and those who actually have a DP and/or 5.7 or 6.1 know they can, do call us for for any kind of help we can offer. Working with a brand new car. A brand new class. A brand new engine combo, is not a simple thing. But just because it isn't the easy road, doesn't mean we won't take it.

To say that someone is "full of crap" seems a little harsh.And when you don't know the facts it is just plain wrong, and frankly it seems a bit nasty.. But that is OK. Just keep making your personal attacks and showing people what kind of guy you are. We really don't care.

David
The New Hemi Guy

[Rich Biebel]

David......

One thing about the interent...it gets people wound up and unlike a person to person discusssion it often turns somewhat ugly for some reason.....I think people are very opinionated, and especially us older dudes.

If I was standing right next to you and we had some of these conversations it would never be like via the internet. We can fuss and argue and usually disagree or agree about issues but it would usually just be a very civil but maybe spirited conversation.......

I got my start in drag racing by racing a Jr.Stocker and that is where my roots are in the sport.....I have raced Stockers and a SS'er a few times but it was more than my budget could allow usually. I always built my own cars and engines. I can live without the bickering, rules issues and never ending controversies but I allow my self to get caught up in it sometimes.....and spout my opinions.

I presently race a dragster in brackets and S/C........It's fits my budget for time and money.......I enjoy racing and have fun and always have.......These are legitamite racecars even if many Classracers think otherwise. I won't go into a diatribe about that subject........It's to bad that we all don't stick together and support all categories. If we did maybe NHRA would treat US all better and racing conditions would be better for all.

David...I wish you good health so you can eventually race the DP and make some good runs.........Us old guys gotta stick together.......

[RJ Sledge]

Just wanted to say that I've known Greg Hill for quite a few years and they don't come any better, straighter or helpful than he. Don't know you and your boy, am sure you are just "good old boys" having fun with a new toy, but I don't think you understand or can appreciate what Greg and racers like him have gone through the last 20 years or so and it just makes it a little hard to try an swallow all the BOGUS hp/combo's that people can go and buy and that NHRA lets it happen.

You earn respect you don't buy it.

Later RJ

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by r sledge

Just wanted to say that I've known Greg Hill for quite a few years and they don't come any better, straighter or helpful than he. Don't know you and your boy, am sure you are just "good old boys" having fun with a new toy, but I don't think you understand or can appreciate what Greg and racers like him have gone through the last 20 years or so and it just makes it a little hard to try an swallow all the BOGUS hp/combo's that people can go and buy and that NHRA lets it happen.

You earn respect you don't buy it.

Later RJ

I second everything RJ just posted. Greg has poured his heart and soul into this sport. He even tried to work through the SRAC to help us out and, in doing so, gained first hand knowledge about the deaf ear of nhra. He has paid his dues and done his home work.

[Jim Wahl]

Here, here! RJ and Bruce have nailed this one! Jim

[Mark Yacavone]

I agree with the last three posts ,too
Listen here , some of you newbies and returning racers (no names mentioned)

Guys like Greg Hill and Mike Walter have been severely beaten up by NHRA's lack of competence for the last 15 years. One could argue that the FI , high tech cars caught them by surprise , and they eventually dealt with it.

Not this time though...

I'll save some of you the trouble of replying now.
For the record ,I'm not against new cars or progress. I remember the 50 Oldes being replaced by the Tri 5 Chevies, which were ,in turn, were obsoleted by the 1st gen. Camaros.
Such changes are inevitable.

What's going on now, is totally different .
NHRA knows exactly what they are doing.
This current crop of minimum run, special built factory ringers, kit cars , and way bogus rated combos in Stock Eliminator is a travesty and totally inexcusable.
Once again, it shows what they think of the MAJORITY of racers.

[Greg Hill]

Aw shucks RJ, I didn't know you cared.