AJE wheelie bars ?

Dyno · 03-31-2010, 02:17 PM

NHRA has a new posting in tech about the wheelie bars.

Floyd Gomez · 03-31-2010, 02:55 PM

Where do you go to find that tech page. I have looked everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Dyno

NHRA has a new posting in tech about the wheelie bars.

junior barns · 03-31-2010, 03:01 PM

lucas page

Bob Pagano · 03-31-2010, 03:59 PM

3/31/2010

The NHRA Technical department wants to remind Stock Eliminator competitors the use of additional bracing/tubing to frame, suspension or underbody is prohibited.

The 2010 NHRA Rulebook, on page 9.8 reads in-part "Wheelie bar brackets may be welded to rear axle housing; bars and associated brackets must be stand alone items and not attached to any suspension or other components."

The use of these wheelie bars are in violation of the NHRA Rulebook. Competitors with this style wheelie bar must bring their vehicle into full compliance with NHRA rules and regulations; on or before June 1st 2010

Robert Simpson · 03-31-2010, 04:10 PM

What brought all this to light? I have seen these bars on Calverts cars for years? While I agree with the clairification. Did I miss something in the rule book about welded on sway bars? I have seen links and attachment points welded to the frame? I don't mean a coil spring car with a bolt on sway bar. I mean a leaf spring car with a sway bar control system on it? I don't know if that is legal or not? It has been several years since I have seen the photos of the cars in question.

Robert

Larry Hill · 03-31-2010, 06:32 PM

Did NHRA say anything about using dry ice in staging?

Larry Hill · 03-31-2010, 06:43 PM

I would like to thank Ralph Popora for allowing me to look at some length at the AJE bars on his car. It was a lot of engineering in a very small space and nicely done.

Stewart Way · 03-31-2010, 06:36 PM

Almost hesitate to enter into this for fear of being accused of b..ching but...Oh Well. Stock started allowing wheelie bars in 2002 I think. The wording has always been the same. Can not be attached to anything but the rear end housing. SS at the time had wheelie bars but it only stated that they could not be attached to the rear bumber of braces and it still reads that way today. But if you read the start of Super Stock it states that SS uses the same rules a Stock except where noted in the SS section. Nowhere in the SS section does it say that any part of the wheelie bar can be attached to anything so the rule from Stock applies to both Stock and Super Stock.
Just my read on the rules and as we know, opinions vary.

Rory McNeil · 03-31-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Simpson

What brought all this to light? I have seen these bars on Calverts cars for years? While I agree with the clairification. Did I miss something in the rule book about welded on sway bars? I have seen links and attachment points welded to the frame? I don't mean a coil spring car with a bolt on sway bar. I mean a leaf spring car with a sway bar control system on it? I don't know if that is legal or not? It has been several years since I have seen the photos of the cars in question.

Robert

Although John Calverts Mustang has been equipped with AJE wheelie bars for several years now, it has always been as a Super Stocker. I don`t believe that he ever had the bars on when it used to run in Stock.

Lew Silverman · 03-31-2010, 08:25 PM

I may be missing something, but the way the bars are designed they act as a lever with the fulcrum in the middle, not at the axle. If you push up on the wheel end it pushes DOWN on the end attached to the axle. On a normal set of bars the fulcrum is at the wheel end, lifting the axle.

Lew

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Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 248 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: AJE wheelie bars ? 3/31/2010 The NHRA Technical department wants to remind Stock Eliminator competitors the use of additional bracing/tubing to frame, suspension or underbody is prohibited. The 2010 NHRA Rulebook, on page 9.8 reads in-part "Wheelie bar brackets may be welded to rear axle housing; bars and associated brackets must be stand alone items and not attached to any suspension or other components." The use of these wheelie bars are in violation of the NHRA Rulebook. Competitors with this style wheelie bar must bring their vehicle into full compliance with NHRA rules and regulations; on or before June 1st 2010 __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

03-31-2010, 04:10 PM	#5
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 808 Likes: 7 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: AJE wheelie bars ? What brought all this to light? I have seen these bars on Calverts cars for years? While I agree with the clairification. Did I miss something in the rule book about welded on sway bars? I have seen links and attachment points welded to the frame? I don't mean a coil spring car with a bolt on sway bar. I mean a leaf spring car with a sway bar control system on it? I don't know if that is legal or not? It has been several years since I have seen the photos of the cars in question. Robert

03-31-2010, 06:32 PM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,674 Likes: 1,989 Liked 10,941 Times in 2,259 Posts	Re: AJE wheelie bars ? Did NHRA say anything about using dry ice in staging? __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

03-31-2010, 06:43 PM	#7
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,674 Likes: 1,989 Liked 10,941 Times in 2,259 Posts	Re: AJE wheelie bars ? I would like to thank Ralph Popora for allowing me to look at some length at the AJE bars on his car. It was a lot of engineering in a very small space and nicely done. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

03-31-2010, 06:36 PM	#8
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: AJE wheelie bars ? Almost hesitate to enter into this for fear of being accused of b..ching but...Oh Well. Stock started allowing wheelie bars in 2002 I think. The wording has always been the same. Can not be attached to anything but the rear end housing. SS at the time had wheelie bars but it only stated that they could not be attached to the rear bumber of braces and it still reads that way today. But if you read the start of Super Stock it states that SS uses the same rules a Stock except where noted in the SS section. Nowhere in the SS section does it say that any part of the wheelie bar can be attached to anything so the rule from Stock applies to both Stock and Super Stock. Just my read on the rules and as we know, opinions vary.

03-31-2010, 08:25 PM	#10
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: AJE wheelie bars ? I may be missing something, but the way the bars are designed they act as a lever with the fulcrum in the middle, not at the axle. If you push up on the wheel end it pushes DOWN on the end attached to the axle. On a normal set of bars the fulcrum is at the wheel end, lifting the axle. Lew __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

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