what is wrong with the national events

[Jason Oldfield]

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale

Jason thats normal for me with my Mickey's they had nobody in water box & no water maybe water shortage (not in NJ thats for sure)

I would have been screwed with nobody to put me in the water. Plus, my small block doesn't make "mammoth power" like all your big blocks - I may not even have been able to do a burnout!

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale

the car left fine it was after it came off stop with my mammoth horsepower it went hard right I tried to recover but after 2nd move forget it.

Yes true. Bryan stated the same thing, so I am in full agreement. The burnouts most likely didn't have anything to do with it (not that I thought that they did, but I know a lot of guys that boil the hides, so your's and Bryan's burnouts are certainly on the short side compared to many).

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale

Nice to see you @ track Jason maybe next time with your car.

Good to see you too Tommy. I can only hope that the next time you do see me I am with car in tow. At least you've seen my car on the way to the races - most people on ClassRacer probably don't even believe I own one.

Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie

I open the door to let the smoke out of the car and close after both per stage bulbs are lite always have always will.

Not criticizing Bryan, just busting on you. I also open the door after every burnout to let the smoke out. I usually close the door immediately before I go into the prestage beam, but to each his own.

Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie

As for the short burnout , that is all that is needed to hook ( I like my vavle springs) as Tommy said the 60' was fine the problem was about 400' thru 800' out as seen in 2nd video of Camaro ( car moved to center line )

Pfft. Valve springs. Who needs stinking valve springs?!?! That's why I like my stinking small block - 8,000 rpm in the burnout box. Of course, I've also been known to leave half of my small block on the starting line, but that's another story.

As for your burnout and it affecting the run - see my comments above with regard to Tommy D's burnout. Regardless, sorry all you guys got screwed...

[Keith 944]

jason, my time run on friday mourning was just like tommy's etc. i do a very short burnout, M/T tires, same 60' so not there, ok after the stop came back on, 2.78 out. It was around the 1/8 th mile mark my car took a sharp left turn. and if you read some of these post again you will see many underpowered cars still could not get down the track.
i also remember seeing sportsman finals on tv (lucas oil coverage) from some race that was held over till monday, i remember a biondo and massell run in comp, aborted runs, super comp wreck, then same aborted runs in finals, super gas, (brianna sp.) and ? aborted runs, super stock same thing, even STOCK was spinning the whole way down the track, can someone refresh my memory on what race this was... HEY NHRA THERE IS A PROBLEM ! wasn't nhra founded on the basics of safety???????

[Keith 944]

oh yea i wanted to add, our first round of eleminations, i switched lanes, it was warmer, and i went straight. i don't want to make this sound like i'm a sore loser, my opponenent won this round fairly, he was also a nice guy! i am just saying something needs to change before someone gets hurt, no one wants to lift on an elemination round!

[Rich67stang]

Keith, You whiner! lol. J/K. I will be @ MIR so its party time!.. If Tommy D shows up at least we have someone to torture all night since he likes to go to sleep early.

[CBS]

I've been asking about the national event track prep for a year....I finally got to ask Graham at the SRAC meeting in Gainsville.... He said Goodyear told him that the traction compound is causing the fuel car tires to chunk. So for before the fuel cars run the spray till 800 ft only....then before prostock they spray the entire track. And that they have not changed the VHT that they have always used....And to his knowledge....VHT has not changed its formula.....

And I don't believe the cold thing....Belle Rose was 40 degrees and killer....the Norwalk divisional was killer....the national sucked...????

So they must be cutting the VHT more...he said they cut with only Methanol....the fuel cars really don't need any spray by the looks of things....

Has anybody noticed you can't smell the VHT at nationals??? maybe its just me....

Something needs to change quick....I will continue to complain.....

Rock

I bet at Z Max they hardly sprayed because of the chunking tires....and what it was that they sprayed had a negative affect...

[S/G 386N]

Originally Posted by CBS

the Norwalk divisional was killer....the national sucked...????

The divisional in '09??? Because I was the 5th pair to go down the track for the 1st round, and it was a pedal fest between me and Steve Williams. Steve runs 9.90 flat out, and not even he could get hooked up. I noticed him all over the place when I was on the stop and knew I was going to have trouble coming off, so I took it easy and was able to pass him, but I was still losing traction at 1/8th mile. After us, they shut down to re-prep. After that, I don't know how it was.

[Henry S]

Track prep at National events just plain suck! This has been happening since Vegas last year. look at Vegas, Pomona, Pomona, Firebird, Gainsville, Charlotte. (trend maybe). I noticed at the Vegas event them only spraying to 1000 feet. Because of lack of track prep I crashed my car there.

I do not understand the statement that the fuel cars are chunking the tires. so what! they put new tires almost every run.
do the sportsman?

why is track prep dictated by 7% of the race cars there.

Plus if the Fuel cars raced to the 1320' then everyone would have the same track prep and no chunking problems. If the problem is that those cars are too fast slow them down and leave the track length, prep, etc to the majority of the race cars there.

And i aslo agree that the fuel cars as well as alcohol cars do not need track prep due to downforce,clutch slip,etc. Please don't tell me that because those cars can get down the track that everyone else should.
sorry for the rant, just needed to vent.
Good luck to all.

[Ted Barnes]

Originally Posted by CBS

And that they have not changed the VHT that they have always used....And to his knowledge....VHT has not changed its formula.....

Has anyone here actually talked to VHT to get their spin on this?

[koncenracing]

just like to add i only made it down track 1 out of 3 times. it was pretty scary. dale koncen 1396 sg