Yet another bogu horsepower factor

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

Everyone is complaining about the low horsepower factors but other than bashing NHRA no one seems to have a solution to the AHFS which is flawed, so here goes. Instead of giving a certain percentage of horsepower, how about every six months if you trigger the one second under, you automatically move up one full class and your horsepower would be adjusted accordingly. That way no one has to add more weight, and the factors will get evened out faster. Now unless you can run an existing class, your car is factored into Super Stock if you don't make the stock weight break. Also if the class average is less than .5 under the index and no car with the same combo went more than .7 under you would automatically move down one full class and your horsepower would be adjusted accordingly. This would even the factors much faster and get things where they should be. Now let the flaming begin.

Great Idea! Now everybody will just be dumping at the 330!

[Charley Downing]

what is your idea billy?

[Alan Roehrich]

Lynn McCarty has posted the solution to the AHFS problems repeatedly.

NHRA is not going to do it.

In fact, the AHFS solution and the changes necessary to make it work quickly were presented to NHRA by some of the SRAC members nearly two years ago. NHRA rejected it out of hand without even considering it. Several long time racers were involved in creating a solution, but NHRA does not care and will not be bothered with it.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Lynn McCarty has posted the solution to the AHFS problems repeatedly.

NHRA is not going to do it.

In fact, the AHFS solution and the changes necessary to make it work quickly were presented to NHRA by some of the SRAC members nearly two years ago. NHRA rejected it out of hand without even considering it. Several long time racers were involved in creating a solution, but NHRA does not care and will not be bothered with it.

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Also, I have repeatedly suggested that NHRA take ALL of the data that they've collected all these years, do the 1000' run completion in the spreadsheet, and factor EVERYTHING once, right now, and then be done with it for years. If everything was factored *properly* based on the performance provided by their current rules, then everybody could run flat out. Then again, if everybody ran flat out, they would get factored properly eventually and then they could run flat out w/o fear of getting (more) HP, but people would rather game the system and then complain about the system. 'Course a little common sense would go a long way toward factoring combinations too, but NHRA has proven with the new cars that they don't care. I *do* think they know better, I just don't think they care. (The higher-ups, powers-that-be types... I think there are a lot of really great individuals working *for* them, that just don't have the power to make things right). What's anybody going to do about it?

Just do McCarty's system and be done with it.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

what is your idea billy?

Start using all of the eigth mile numbers!

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Start using all of the eigth mile numbers!

How about doing away with the 1000ft numbers totally just give the 60', and the 1/8 mile times

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by art leong

How about doing away with the 1000ft numbers totally just give the 60', and the 1/8 mile times

Even with just 60' and 660' times, you can interpolate 1/4-mile times, so you will still have people dumping to game the system, while having enough data to race by. You need to fix the *system*, or better yet, just factor everybody now based on years of collected data. See previous posts.

[Charley Downing]

There will always be a way to get around any system that is in place. If you use 1/8 mile times people will lift a 330.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

There will always be a way to get around any system that is in place. If you use 1/8 mile times people will lift a 330.

Hey, didn't Billy say that already.

[dwydendorf]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Great Idea! Now everybody will just be dumping at the 330!

You would have to get every racer running that same combo to dump, not just one car. If it is an oddball combo that no one else runs,then it probably isn't that good to begin with and needs a lower factor anyway. Trying to get racers to stick together is like getting Congress to agree, so the chances of getting the same racers to dump the same amount is slim.