Should Indy be Class Winners and Qualifiers Only?

[Tim Kish]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

srac did not vote to do this... the $$$$ did it ... i might even guess they knew the underfactored CJ & DP were coming and wanted to be sure they all got into the show ???

as far as a flagman and a 450' head start id like to try it just once for the hell of it !!!!
i can probably cut a better flag than a tree...and the flagman is gonna be WAY away from that aa/s CJ hope he' got 20-20 vision !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

captain jack
16 time us nationals class champion... and yes i raced someone most of those years !

Jack - the underfactored cars would get in with either system being at the top of the qualifying sheet. The whining was from the .9-1.0 under cars that were getting bumped. Their rationale is that they were getting bumped by cars winning class singles and going fast enough to get the win (-0.5) but not fast enough to make the top 128. This basis many at the time agreed with (as polled on here). The ones that suffered were the classes where no one can run more than 1-under so you could have multiple cars in a class and none of them including the class winner make the field of 128 becuase they aren't fast enough. Making this added means of limiting the number of classes that can make the field for eliminations helps increase the possibility that the classes with more cars and better factors will end up with heads up runs in eliminations - something people were asking for (also previously popular on here).

[Jack McCarthy]

tim if 128 CJ & DP (it may happen in 2011) show up then 40 of them would get ousted by class winners ... right ?

just making a point... wally always wanted EVERY class to be represnted in the eliminator... therefore the rule was "field will be comprised of the class winners and then filled to (64) 128 with the fastest qaulifiers against thier index not winning thier respective class."

worked for 35 years
jack

[Harry 6674]

How about class winners plus fastest qualifiers with no breakout first to the finish line for class and qualifying. That alone would speed up factoring. No bagging, you lift and your gone. They could put the pinks crew in charge of qualifying. They can spot a bagger a 1/4 mile away.

[442OLDS]

(4) years later opinions?

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by 442olds

(4) years later opinions?

santa claus

[Larry Hill]

You in the eggnog again Mickey?

[HR9121]

Oh please don't slap Santa...

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

(4) years later opinions?

Not only am I one of the 122 votes (and I would vote the same now as I did 4yrs ago), but I also think the combo should go away, and all single class entrants should get Wally's for running .5 under the index, like they used to not so long ago. My .02

[Bill Koski]

Not long before that all a single had to do was show up and make a pass to win class. If they didn't run the index they didn't make the ladder with a full field.

[Dwight Southerland]

Whether they do it at Indy or one of the Sportsnationals events, there should be a race where class winners and quickest runners-up should make the field (regardless if they can run the index). There is no reason why every event has the same venue. Promote it well as the "Class Racers' Event" and you could build a following. Bogus HP factors kill the interest and incentive to be involved if performance against the index is the only measure. Quickest against the index is another erosion of performance based racing.

Also, we have enough "all run" national events that don't mean anything special. Indy did not get its allure by itself; racers talk it up as something special and racers can make that happen for another race, too.