"Lollygaggers"

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary View Post
Great suggestion for stock and superstock from a guy who hasn't raced either.

I hope this wasn't pointed towards me, lol

[Ken Miele]

Wow, man do you guys take the fun out of racing. Does it really matter if your opponent is in the lanes when you get there. If you have to wait, is it really that big of a deal. You guys have already put yourself out of the race by getting so annoyed about having to wait for your opponent. Instead of being annoyed, use the time to your advantage. Listen to the runs and to see if people are running their number. Pay attention to the wind, there is so much you can do to help your program while waiting. For me its a blessing when I have to wait for my opponent. I get to go over ever aspect of the run, the more info I have the better chance I have at wining.

Making a positive out of a negative will give you a better chance of wining, and most of all, it makes your racing experience more enjoyable. With all things to be upset about, waiting for your opponent seems to be trivial at best.

Mike, Larry has been beating me up for years on Class Racer without using my name. Remember I have a paper car, but with the new CJ's and DP's the heat is now on them. I wouldn't take it personally, its obvious to me why some racers don't like to wait, its not the waiting, its who they are waiting for.

[Emmett Mikolajczyk]

Hey--try running two SS cars in the race-one with a 19 year old and your self--try putting enough space between you, so you dont have to run your old fat- out of breath -*** off from the water box to the back of the lanes get strapped in and control you breathing so you dont go RED--and try and have a good time--trust me it brings a new meaning to Lollygaggers--it is very poetic that this topic came up after this weekend ?? go figure--later--Emmett

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

For me its a blessing when I have to wait for my opponent. I get to go over ever aspect of the run, the more info I have the better chance I have at wining.

Kenny,

Please don't help the competition, if we wanted them to know any positive aspects we'd have posted them. It much better to be in their head dude!!

[Michael Beard]

You're right. Everybody should wait until last call. That'd be awesome.

Seems like the only ones who "proceve" an advantage to waiting are those who do it. If someone's really worried about having weather data closer to the time of making the run, then go up early instead of waiting through 50 pairs of cars.

The discussion has nothing to do with a driver's ability -- regardless of which side of the argument a person is on.

I remember a race at Maple Grove in the late '90s when Bob Lang threatened to cancel a Comp session when NONE of them came to the lanes after being called several times. Somehow, they found their way to the staging lanes pretty quick after that!

I am a proponent of common sense, coupled with a dash of courtesy.

[James Perrone]

Someones got to go first .
Someone got be last. Look at the ladder you will figure it out..
Oh Ken you are DEAD.
You just cant keep a secret..

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Wow, man do you guys take the fun out of racing. Does it really matter if your opponent is in the lanes when you get there. If you have to wait, is it really that big of a deal. You guys have already put yourself out of the race by getting so annoyed about having to wait for your opponent. Instead of being annoyed, use the time to your advantage. Listen to the runs and to see if people are running their number. Pay attention to the wind, there is so much you can do to help your program while waiting. For me its a blessing when I have to wait for my opponent. I get to go over ever aspect of the run, the more info I have the better chance I have at wining.

Making a positive out of a negative will give you a better chance of wining, and most of all, it makes your racing experience more enjoyable. With all things to be upset about, waiting for your opponent seems to be trivial at best.

You exactly right Ken. It seems as though the traveling sportsman, and the Hitters are the ones who are usually toward the end of the session. So all these cry babies don't like to race them and want to close the lanes so the don't have to run them.
"Oh they play the ladder game to set up on me", "Oh, they show up late and still have to sit behind 20 pair before they run" I don't like that, can we close the lanes? I'd rather run a single than show them who is the better driver....

[Michael Beard]

Yep, that's totally it. Thanks for putting it into words.

I hope I win a race someday.

[Bart Kilraine]

I don't like waiting in the staging lanes to pair up,the second call for stock shoud be enough.I always seem to be the 1st. or 2nd.pair down the track for time runs,who the hell wants to line up at the scale ,starting and stoping.I don't know why you guys need more weather;track info....you keep 2-3 hundreds in the bank.

[Mike Walter]

My view on this thread has nothing to do with how one individual feels slighted by the choice of their opponent coming at the end of a session. If there is a concern, just ask your opponent if their plan is going up first, last, whatever. But.....the bigger issue has to do with keeping the event going on schedule and it doesn't matter which sanctioning body or local stock/superstock race it is..

A schedule is posted so competitors have an basic understanding when they'll be called.
Anyone that's raced for any length of time can figure out if stock is scheduled for 8:00am, they are going to start calling 30 min. or so prior to that time. There is no reason unless of some mechanical issue should you not know when your going out. The people in my mind affected the most by "late arrivals" are the staging personel listening to the guys yelling at them from the tower to keep the program moving, while at the same time dealing with the next class already called. Every time I see people like Bill Floyd, Ryck Campbell, Travis Miller, and a host of others trying to make sense of all these pairings makes me just pissed as hell to think that " Ya know....I've been at this track since 6:30 this morning and I'm probably not going to leave until after dark. Would it be too much to ask of a competitor to just work with us come up when called to help this day run a little smoother". You couldn't pay me enough money to do that job and in my opinion, when one chooses only look at their own agenda with any importance, it's not much difference than kicking the people I mentioned above right in the nuts.