Once again a bogus combination

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

You can change with the times or you can dream about the old days. There is no future in the past.

Thanks so much for the support and all the letter-writing advocating bringing Crate Motor cars to NHRA. They have been the future since 1995, so again, thank you for embracing them! Crate Motor cars make up a big percentage of the field in this region, so it stands to reason that the fields will be enhanced even more in NHRA, strengthening the fundamentals going forward, and taking them to the next level. I understand that NHRA will be bringing them into the fold at the factory ratings, to keep things fair for everyone. (ie., my 360 Magnum will revert to the factory rating of 300HP, rather than 325HP)

Sorry, thought my calendar said April 1, not 15. Seriously? I got "enhanced", "fundamentals", "going forward", and "the next level" all in one sentence. That's a winner right there! (It's unfortunate that I have to even state this, but unfortunately I've encountered some... reading comprehension impaired individuals in the past: Yes, this post was sarcastic.)

[Randall Klein]

Sea change: in the '50's, Chevy stovebolts effectively eliminated Olds, Hudsons etc, then the early 60's found MoPars and 409's making inroads, but later in that decade the lanes full of '55-'57 Chevs gave way to Camaro's (mostly) with a few Mustangs, Cudas, Challengers.

It seems as if Camaros of '67-'71 held sway until the GT rules, then the F.I. stuff and now another sea change: lanes full of current Mustangs and Challengers

I'm sure each group that got "pre-empted" felt wronged. Ford stepped up with money and money talks.....I'm not sure winning on Sunday translates to Monday sales especially when we generally on the track when no one is in the stands

As an aside, of all the Mustangs and Challengers sold, where are they? I thought Ford's intent was that they be raced not collected.

[junior barns]

.....I'm not sure winning on Sunday translates to Monday sales especially when we generally on the track when no one is in the stands


This statement is so true, not just for NHRA but also NASCER too!!

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Randall Klein

Sea change: in the '50's, Chevy stovebolts effectively eliminated Olds, Hudsons etc, then the early 60's found MoPars and 409's making inroads, but later in that decade the lanes full of '55-'57 Chevs gave way to Camaro's (mostly) with a few Mustangs, Cudas, Challengers.

It seems as if Camaros of '67-'71 held sway until the GT rules, then the F.I. stuff and now another sea change: lanes full of current Mustangs and Challengers

I'm sure each group that got "pre-empted" felt wronged. Ford stepped up with money and money talks.....I'm not sure winning on Sunday translates to Monday sales especially when we generally on the track when no one is in the stands

As an aside, of all the Mustangs and Challengers sold, where are they? I thought Ford's intent was that they be raced not collected.

At least in every instance that you mentioned the prior offerings were "pre-empted" by actual cars that existed and could be purchased and driven on the street in stock form. None of the current Cobra Jets or Drag Packs can be purchased at any dealership and driven off the lot in stock form. There is a major difference with these cars than any that you compared them to.

This would mean that they are not adhering to the spirit of "Stock Eliminator." They are more akin to Super Stock or Modified Production. The late model fuel injected Firebirds and Camaros were underrated when they came onto the scene, but they were relegated to fuel injected classes until their horsepower was corrected to fairly reflect what they should.

At a bare minimum the NHRA should relegate the Cobra Jets and Drag Packs to a sub class within Stock Eliminator until their adjusted horsepower is more accurate.

[Ken Miele]

Well, call me a fool. I would rather be a fooled racer than a spectator that hasn't been fooled. With all do respect to Terry and Bruce, we are friends, but you guys do not race NHRA, I do.

I'm having fun and its obvious your not. The old days are gone, and if you don't like what NHRA has done you need not support them. I can respect that, but you guys never have a good word for NHRA and it just gets kind of old.

I maybe a fool, but I am a happy fool

[J.Dillinger]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Well, call me a fool. I would rather be a fooled racer than a spectator that hasn't been fooled. With all do respect to Terry and Bruce, we are friends, but you guys do not race NHRA, I do.

I'm having fun and its obvious your not. The old days are gone, and if you don't like what NHRA has done you need not support them. I can respect that, but you guys never have a good word for NHRA and it just gets kind of old.

I maybe a fool, but I am a happy fool

I believe that you really believe the 352 Crate ford is dead on @285HP

[Superfan1]

There is an old saying that "you can't be a victim if you volunteer". Ken is simply saying precisely that; if you don't like what the NHRA is doing, then don't participate.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Superfan1

There is an old saying that "you can't be a victim if you volunteer". Ken is simply saying precisely that; if you don't like what the NHRA is doing, then don't participate.

Spoken like a real Super Fan.

Some people forget that this racing thing is about people. For many of us it is also about visiting with our friends and enjoying a good day of competition. It kinda sours the deal when you have to compete with cars that everyone on this earth knows makes 150 horsepower more than your car. Also, I don't think anyone should be so arrogant as to tell us to stay home if we don't like the cards we have been dealt. It takes away from the purpose of this site to issue such proclamations.Todate we have no say in this horsepower issue but that may change in the future.

[Jeff Teuton]

There is gonna be room out here for all of us. After the next couple races, there might be some adjustments to make some people happy, some people mad, and some people are never happy. I can speak from expereience that the Challenger is a real chore to get to the track, and I think we know what we are doing. There will be some that will never be started, but it won't be from choice. I think if I started today building a new Challenger and a new 69 Super Bee 6 pack, I could get the 6-pak to the track sooner. A SS/AH would take a little longer, and who wants one anyway. Just the thoughts of a guy who is too old and should quit.

[John Leichtamer Jr]

Ken

How long are you going to be happy when you keep getting your *** beat by the new underrated Mustangs & Challenger????????

Hammer

I love Ford Loyalty