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Old 04-18-2010, 10:18 AM   #1
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I think you could only get an aluminum clip on a 2 dr sedan or 2 dr hardtop from the factory, but I'm sure some racers changed to the lighter front end. One of the 63 Polara 500 max convertibles supposedly got an aluminum nose installed 2 weeks after it was bought new. It had no trouble winning street races in Yonkers, and was dubbed " King of the hill" .
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:51 AM   #2
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Don't know if it's been posted before--when I lived in Roswell N.M. a friend had a '69 Falcon 429SCJ-4-spd. car. He said he ordered it locally with the usual deletes, rubber mat & bench seat. He claims he was told Ford had this stuffed in their order books way in the back as a "lightweight" version of a Torino for those that wanted to race that body style but didn't want all the extras that added weight & bring it down in class. I think it was something like D/S & ran pretty well, but was one rattlely SOB.
Another car I know existed that was REALLY weird was from Randall AMC (home of the 401 Gremlin) was a 401 PACER!.
Tom Iverson, the guy responsible at Ranadll AMC for installing 401in the Gremlin told me they actually had several requests for them. Although they were a tight fit a few (he couldn't remember how many) were built but they were so butt-ugly they never caught on. He said he did hear a rumor a few factory 360 Pacers were built.
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:22 PM   #3
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Don't know if it's been posted before--when I lived in Roswell N.M. a friend had a '69 Falcon 429SCJ-4-spd. car. He said he ordered it locally with the usual deletes, rubber mat & bench seat. He claims he was told Ford had this stuffed in their order books way in the back as a "lightweight" version of a Torino for those that wanted to race that body style but didn't want all the extras that added weight & bring it down in class. I think it was something like D/S & ran pretty well, but was one rattlely SOB.
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Actually, it would have been a 1970 Falcon, which looked like the all new 70 Torino, except the Falcon was a bare bones 2 door sedan, rather than the hardtop. They did build a few, but I doubt that many are still around now.
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:27 PM   #4
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Max-Wedge,
Did any of the 1962 413 Max-wedge wagons come through with a
HC 13.5-1 420HP engine?
Did any of the 62' cars come through with some type of a light-weight package?
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Old 04-18-2010, 04:36 PM   #5
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Max-Wedge,
Did any of the 1962 413 Max-wedge wagons come through with a
HC 13.5-1 420HP engine?
Did any of the 62' cars come through with some type of a light-weight package?
Paul
I dont know about the 62 wagons. The one thing I have never been able to prove or not prove was I had heard that the ORIGINAL 13.5 comp. 420 HP 62 Plymouth 2 door Savoys (no Furys or Dodges) were stamped from a thinner gauge metal (not acid dipped). The 410 HP versions were heavier and had the regular thickness metal bodies it seems. I never had the chance to use a micrometer on one to see if there was a difference. I have met a couple of owners with what was supposed to be original 420 HP Savoys (now running brackets with 440's) and thier cars were much lighter on the scales (approx 150 pounds) than some of the 318/383 cars and these were not gutted bracket cars.
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:00 PM   #6
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Paul,
There were supposedly no '62 wagons, Dodge or Plymouth, built with HC or LC 413s at the factory, according to the D. Davis book. That's not to say one or two didn't slip out the back door.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:57 AM   #7
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Paul,
There were supposedly no '62 wagons, Dodge or Plymouth, built with HC or LC 413s at the factory, according to the D. Davis book. That's not to say one or two didn't slip out the back door.
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No Max wedge wagons but you could get the controversial 413/395hp with two inline carbs, 413 single carb and the 383/343 two inline carbs.

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I think you could only get an aluminum clip on a 2 dr sedan or 2 dr hardtop from the factory, but I'm sure some racers changed to the lighter front end. One of the 63 Polara 500 max convertibles supposedly got an aluminum nose installed 2 weeks after it was bought new. It had no trouble winning street races in Yonkers, and was dubbed " King of the hill" .
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In 1963 the NHRA put pressure on Mother Mopar because not enough aluminum cars were built, so the owners of an unknown number of '63 Max Wedge cars were sent complete aluminum front ends whether they asked for them or not. The object was to get enough of them out there to satisfy the NHRA.

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