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Old 04-26-2010, 07:30 AM   #1
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Put a "stripe taker" flap on your car, if that is legal in the class. Al it takes is a small piece of aluminum underneath the front of the bumper to make sure you get the infra-reds to "see you car".

We put them on the Cutlass and it is about the same distance as a newer Camaro now and it trips the light whether I am on the brakes or on the gas. Needs to be about 5" off the ground in most cases at the stripe.

Try it, you'll like it.
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Old 04-26-2010, 07:36 AM   #2
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That low front end is a two edged sword unless your car does it every time. It can also cause you to break out if you're not expecting it.
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:20 AM   #3
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No "stripe takers" allowed in stock / superstock. Tech will make you take it off right away.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:39 AM   #4
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We would need to build a retractable one. Do you think Q from the British MI6 squad could come up with something? It surely couldn't be any harder to build than the rotating license plates on James Bond's Aston Martins!

Seriously, maybe they do need to consider lowering the beam.
I was talking to my Buddy again the other night that lost the Pittsburgh Raceway Park track championship when he raced his bike against a car with a stripe taker. I told him it was being discussed on this site.
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:36 PM   #5
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Anyone know if there is a youtube video of it?
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:41 PM   #6
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I'm going to post basically exactly what I posted over on DRR... this should be a non issue. Everybody goes down the same track on any given weekend. you drive YOUR car be responsible for it. take the time to study your car and how it works. Pay attention to other cars at the track. It is completely and totally YOUR responsibility to pay attention to the little details like what is going to take the stripe on any given car. stop blaming others for your lack of effort in studying your sport. There is way more to this sport than hitting the tree and running the number get used to it...

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Old 04-26-2010, 05:52 PM   #7
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Yes this is no ones fault but my own. I caught him earlier than expected and I didn't need to be a "hero" down there. I am in the process of figuring out ways to take the stripe everytime with the nose, like Lamb's car. Sucks it cost me a National win to finally do something about it.

Hawk is correct, when we stage...we accept all aspects of our cars.

My car is already so low it is difficult to load into the trailer, so I'm not exactly sure what I'm gonna do. I did have my front end looser with 0lbs on nose because of no air in Vegas so that might have played a role too.

Getting sun burned in La Paz, Mexico...what an amazing place.

Seeya in St Louis...
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Old 04-26-2010, 07:40 PM   #8
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Yes this is no ones fault but my own. I caught him earlier than expected and I didn't need to be a "hero" down there. I am in the process of figuring out ways to take the stripe everytime with the nose, like Lamb's car. Sucks it cost me a National win to finally do something about it.

Hawk is correct, when we stage...we accept all aspects of our cars.

My car is already so low it is difficult to load into the trailer, so I'm not exactly sure what I'm gonna do. I did have my front end looser with 0lbs on nose because of no air in Vegas so that might have played a role too.

Getting sun burned in La Paz, Mexico...what an amazing place.

Seeya in St Louis...
Brad I wish you better luck in St Louis, but I'll offer you another angle on why I disagree with Brad Hawk (and think you're falsely blaming yourself):

If you get a chance to see the finish line freeze frame of your cars frontal area as opposed to his, you'll see that the lowest edge of the nose of your car was nearly even with the most forward point of your front tire (maybe 1-2" lower than the center of your wheel). However, his lowest point of that same area was nearly equal to the lowest part of his wheel. It looked to me like his frontal area was 3-5" lower than yours, thus giving him the advantage.

I'll be ok with your opinion of the race (I'll be re-watching it on my video tape), but it still doesn't make that right, because it wasn't a fair race (for you or Dennis Paz)...both of those races (the Super Gas & Super Stock Finals) started with the front tires, they should've finished it with them too!!!

Chris Lamb, I'm sorry that Justin lost that race he lost the same way, but that just adds more to the reason that the finish beams need to be the same height as the staging beams are...
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Old 04-26-2010, 07:31 PM   #9
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Justin and myself have had a few discussions about how low he runs his cars and I have had to replaced the belly pan and have to bend back the collectors on the headers about every other race but Justin insist that the front has to be that low in order to trip the finish line beams the same every run. Well I guess it paid off in the end. We knew at the race that Justin had got the win because of the setup of his racecar vs. Brads. Jeff Foster said as soon as the ESPN guys saw the replay they called over to the tower and had them look at it. Jeff said that it is up to the competitor to know what is tripping the beams on there racecar, either the front end or the tires. Of course we learned this the hard way Justin lost to Tony Defrank in AZ. when he first started racing Super Stock and he knew that he was ahead but the clocks showed the win in the other lane, someone brought a picture over and it clearly shows that Justin's old 84 Camaro was 2ft ahead but that his front end was 7 to 8 inchs high which caused the front tires to trip the beams. We also discovered at that time that the old car when he was on the brakes would trip the beam with the front end which could also cause a breakout a double edge sword. So know one of the first thing Justin does is make sure that under acceleration the front of his cars are not over 5 inchs high going down track, you will see that he even has a stripe taker on his super gas roadster.

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BTW I have been told that the finish beams are set at 5 to 6 inchs
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:10 PM   #10
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We would need to build a retractable one. Do you think Q from the British MI6 squad could come up with something? It surely couldn't be any harder to build than the rotating license plates on James Bond's Aston Martins!

Seriously, maybe they do need to consider lowering the beam.
I was talking to my Buddy again the other night that lost the Pittsburgh Raceway Park track championship when he raced his bike against a car with a stripe taker. I told him it was being discussed on this site.
I already had one designed in my head for my '97 Firebird.......would not have been very hard to make it happen. Could be used at the finishline with a momentary switch and only needed 12 volts and some fabrication time.


I did see a picture of a southern based stocker that appeared to have a stripe taker. I was not sure as it was just a picture........I thought it would have been easy to see as the car is a wheelstander and shows it's underside to the fence every run....


I agree with the post that it is your responsiblity to look at your opponents car and be very aware of the timing system. If you don't pay attention to these details you'll never win a race, except by luck......The timing system is what the races are judged on.....Untill they change it you have to know whats going on out there.

Comp cars and Pro Stockers have been using low noses or "cow catchers" for years..........

I've been bitten twice with the low nose breakout deal.....I considered it my fault for not doing something about it......
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