Anybody Use Performance Welding Headers?

[Bill Edgeworth]

I use Marks (Performance Welding) merge collectors on my Pontiac. He really knows his stuff and they are great quality.
He is a great person to go to considering your combo. His small block A body that Steve Wann often drives is one of the fastest A bodies around. You should talk to him about what he does on his car. He actually has a second merge collector where both headers merge into one exhaust. Sounds a bit different but the thing sure is fast.

[Bill Grubbs]

Jim, only one name...Calvin Elston
.13 on our SBC (never dynoed as the headers would not fit the cradle)
13 hp 15 ft-lbs TQ on our BBC 396 (back to back over some pretty good stuff)

www.elstonheaders.com

Bill

[mannymen]

Bill Grubbs $3200 for 13hp and 15 tq? Is that about right?

[Bill Grubbs]

Originally Posted by mannymen

Bill Grubbs $3200 for 13hp and 15 tq? Is that about right?

Talk to Calvin on the cost as some cars require more work than others. If you have a 1st gen Camaro or a second gen Nova he has a jig and does not need the car, For others he will need the car as they are custom built for each specific car/frame/steering/engine mounts/engine combination.

Even though the cost is not inexpensive dollar wise...when you get to the +1 under area his cost for HP and torque is very reasonable. In this area you can spend multiples of the header cost and still not gain nearly as much as you will with his headers.

Basically for a .3-.5 under car, money can be better spent in other areas. It all comes down to the HP per dollar equation. However, with the 'Law of Diminishing Returns" there will be a time when the cost per HPfor the headers will be less expensive compared to other options.

Bill

[Jim Wahl]

Well said Bill and I do understand your point. I am looking for maximum hp from whatever header I choose. Headers are very expensive now, that has become painfully obvious to me as of late. The reason I asked about Performance Welding is because George Widuch uses them and recommended them to me. As you may know he built my car as well as all of Jerry Bennett's cars. I called Mark Leichook at PW and he told me he owns the 340 Dodge that Wann drives and I think he is very much in tune with all that George has taught me. The mild steel headers on the car were made by Don Chromer many years ago and the only thing holding them together was the Nitroplate coating!

Jeff, Mark told me you are correct, SS headers make more HP because of the way the exhaust pulsing reacts to it. He said they don't get many requests for mild steel tubing anymore. There must be a reason why all the Pro Stock and Comp guys run nothing but SS headers.

Ron, I ran Jere Stahl's headers on my SS car many, many years ago. They are a high quality header also.I still have them. Jim