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Old 05-04-2010, 06:31 AM   #1
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Bill K/SA is a 12.65 and L/SA is 12.70. Thats always been strange to me .
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:46 AM   #2
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Bill K/SA is a 12.65 and L/SA is 12.70. Thats always been strange to me .
Not always just this year.lol you right though always been .05 diff . just funnin .
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:15 AM   #3
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Bill -

Some of the reason (although there seems little reason to it now) goes back to the period shortly after the index system was initiated. The first index lists were "even" from class to class, then adjusted because of the number of competitors in certain classes who were disproportionately faster than the rest of the field. During those times, adjusting power factors was not popular at all, but adjusting indexes was more accepted (a strong pride factor was involved). It is leftover evidence of early attempts to level the playing field.

The top classes always were penalized. Some of the justification was the performance levels of the participants in those classes; some of it was trying to make those classes less attractive to allow the "little guys" more chance to win (according to Farmer). It worked for a while, but $$ and egos combine for quite a force.

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Old 05-04-2010, 07:32 AM   #4
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Making all of the classes one pound breaks would help even things out and provide more racing in each class (can you say AHFS)........lol.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:12 AM   #5
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So Dwight K/SA falls under the Billy Lynn index lol
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:44 PM   #6
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So Dwight K/SA falls under the Billy Lynn index lol
Actually, the K-L deal was because there were very few cars in K and lots of hot dog 283s in L. Remember, this was before you could jump classes like you can today.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:17 AM   #7
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Thanks for the explanations, especially Dwight's, which is probably the one closest to how this situation actually came about, along with Alan's....

Neither seems to have much to recommend it as regards logic in keeping it in today's environment. I'm not sure exactly who is suppose to benefit from its skewed mathematics, now, and I'd bet even money that things being what they are (currently), were it not for the monumental amount of inertia that exists in correcting "mistakes" of this kind, it might well be gone.... replaced by a more even-handed .15 approach.

I don't understand why NHRA hangs onto this sort of inequity, when the original reason(s) for its existence would seem to have disappeared.

But, that's just NHRA., I guess...
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:45 PM   #8
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Try NHRA's FWD class weight breaks!
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:34 PM   #9
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Michael,

I'm sure there is a lot to examine in that area, too; but this Index business sticks out like a sore thumb, and actually looks more like a typo than anything else. Makes it unnecessarily hard to qualify for Indy with an A/SA car, I would think... but some get it done. It helps if you have a new, paper/crate-motor, car with an Alice in Wonderland HP factor...
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