Guaranteed Purses

[Don Kennedy]

A question at a Stock and Super Stock race if the Starting line is not prepped right who is going to spin more ??? Cars with more power or less power Just curious as I am just a rookie

[Mike Carr]

At our races, the tracks must be prepped fine. There are advantages for both Stock and Super Stock at events such as these.

Stockers: Get the clean tree most of the time, lower HP = less chance to spin, can probably hot-lap a bit better.

S/S: Get to chase most of the time, have a bigger tire to help hook, most have both transbrakes and auto shifters.

You can argue points for/against both.

[jim reynolds]

One of the points Tracy is making, which i wholeheartedly agree with, is it is absolutely stupid that one track schedules on top of another in close proxemity on the same date!!! ESPECIALLY, after the 1st track(ROXBORO), has had these races scheduled way in advance....... I would've raced at both, but ROXBORO had this date 1st and garanteed their purse to boot!!! By the way congrats Tracy on the WIN!

[Mike Carr]

To get back to the original point, I think it's admirable the track still paid out the advertised guaranteed purse. Our races, purse is dependant on car count, and the only guarantee is 23 cars pays a thousand to win and 500 r/u.

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by jim reynolds

One of the points Tracy is making, which i wholeheartedly agree with, is it is absolutely stupid that one track schedules on top of another in close proxemity on the same date!!! ESPECIALLY, after the 1st track(ROXBORO), has had these races scheduled way in advance....... I would've raced at both, but ROXBORO had this date 1st and garanteed their purse to boot!!! By the way congrats Tracy on the WIN!

I wouldn't exactly say that i am stupid. These tracks are over 3 hours apart and i don't think we had not one car that runs the Roxboro combo races. Besides that i have fixed it by running on Sundays. Now we all have a choice to run both or one or none. Good Luck to all and hope to see some of you in the future.

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

I see what your saying Tracy and Danny, we had to change one of our dates this year cause of the scheduling of the AHRA National event at Marion, cause they was paying almost triple what we was paying out and I'm seeing now they might not even run SS & Stock there. Oh well we couldn't take the chance.

BTW ,nice win Tracy

[THE LEGEND]

Jim,
I saw nothing in Tracy post about another race. Roxboro or KDS have never drawn a lot of cars for a combo. In fact nobody in the Carolinas have. I've never seen over 50. It's a shame the racers won't support it with fine promoters like we have here. At least the tracks are trying. If the combos go away you can only blame the racers.
That being said I have some thoughts why nobody shows:

1) No national publicity
2) No iron man
Like I always said " We race for jackets hats and trophys. The money is spent before we get it.
3) No contingency to fuss about not getting.
4) No Qualifying sheets
5) People like the multi day events. It's like they go to a party and hope a race breaks out.
6) No prestige
7) No NHRA/IHRA appeal.
8) I think another thing is still the economy. It cost a lot of money to go racing. In the southeast many of us have already ran 5-10 races this year. If you hav'nt won anything it's starting to be costly. Look at the entry list at the NHRA races now vs. 5 years ago.
I had a racer tell me he could'nt afford to go to a one day divisional race a wear his car out for the $1500 to $2000 he would get for a win. What makes you think they will come out for $1,000.

Fayetteville is having a combo this saturday. $3,000 to win with 75 cars. How many do you think will be there?

Chip Johnson

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Jim,
I saw nothing in Tracy post about another race. Roxboro or KDS have never drawn a lot of cars for a combo. In fact nobody in the Carolinas have. I've never seen over 50. It's a shame the racers won't support it with fine promoters like we have here. At least the tracks are trying. If the combos go away you can only blame the racers.
That being said I have some thoughts why nobody shows:

1) No national publicity
2) No iron man
Like I always said " We race for jackets hats and trophys. The money is spent before we get it.
3) No contingency to fuss about not getting.
4) No Qualifying sheets
5) People like the multi day events. It's like they go to a party and hope a race breaks out.
6) No prestige
7) No NHRA/IHRA appeal.
8) I think another thing is still the economy. It cost a lot of money to go racing. In the southeast many of us have already ran 5-10 races this year. If you hav'nt won anything it's starting to be costly. Look at the entry list at the NHRA races now vs. 5 years ago.
I had a racer tell me he could'nt afford to go to a one day divisional race a wear his car out for the $1500 to $2000 he would get for a win. What makes you think they will come out for $1,000.

Fayetteville is having a combo this saturday. $3,000 to win with 75 cars. How many do you think will be there?

Chip Johnson

I'll be there. Ifigure maybe 30-40 s/ss. Hope i'm wrong and on the low side. See ya there Chip.

[THE LEGEND]

THere is a bracket race on Friday night too.
I will be there both days.
Chip

[Tracy Robbins]

Thanks for the congrats Jim and Joe. My point is the track operator is bending over backwards and genuinely loves stock and ss and is trying to help us grow...but, there are not enough s/ss racers w/in the 140 miles (2 hours 40 min. per mapquest) that seperate the two to make both locations successful if scheduled together. By the way, those roads on Mapquest go both ways, I've surely made my fair share of trips to Kinston. These cars are not top e.t. or footbrake cars that you regularly have 100 show up at all tracks on any given Saturday night.
That being said, hopefully that issue has been remedied by the new Sunday races at Kinston.
Now, do we need a larger guaranteed purse? Two day races? We had iron tree trophies last year, do we need those back? Any ideas?