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Were did the pics of the floor pan go
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There is your answer. If the floor was legal, the pictures would still be online. Looks like they got removed before tech could see them.
For those who missed the pictures showing the bottom of the car...from the tunnel out to the rocker panels extending from the firewall to the rear seat area...flat sheet metal was used. No stock floor anywhere to be seen. Last edited by Jason; 05-24-2010 at 10:43 PM. |
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I don't see what the big deal is. All chassis builders interpret the rules differently. From what I see this car wouldn't be the first one to be built like this. It seems to me that B&B race cars also does the same thing as like on Sean Cour's GT/AA Cobalt. His car and many other, built the same way, pass tech on a regular basis and never get questioned on legality by anyone, including tech officials. Lets all face it, both stock and super stock cars are getting way out of hand. Super stock car's should be running anywhere close to 8.00's in the 1/4 ( Scott Gove SS/AM) or any stocker running 9.40's. The only reason the cars are so quick today is because of rule intrepretations. Guys have stretched the rules for years and they will continue to do so. NHRA don't have a problem with it, so why should anyone else.
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Stock & Super Stock have both gotten to far away from the original intent and guidelines of the categories. Racers have threatened lawsuits to push their interpretations of the Rule Book, and the Sanctioning bodies have given up on any actual enforcement. Which now gives us these Extremes in the same class.... A complete tube frame and sheet metal floors are legal in a SS/GT car... But an older body car in the same category can't even run tubular A-arms.
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I believe that I read in the rule book somewhere, that just because a car passed tech at a prior event that does not mean it is legal ! I spent a great deal of time with several top NHRA officals while planning my 60 Corvette for Super/Stock. I will tell you that they are NOT on the same page when it comes to the rules. I feel this is very distructive to the sport as we know it. Cutting edge is way cool, over the edge is not ! It is strange that a guy can get tossed for +.002 of valve lift, while a major part of a chassis or body modification that differs from the rule book is OK. Wesley explained to me like this "if the rule book does'nt say you can do it, YOU CAN'T" If NHRA wants to sign off on Mr. Rich's car that's great. Produce the rules revision and update the rule book next year so that others could have the same guidelines.
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Wade,
You have a PM. |
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These modifications have been allowed for a while.
I just think the NHRA should open those rules up to all SS cars though.
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Hey Zac,
This is a B&B Floor Pan. All B&B Cars have factory floor pans. Now show me your pic again. All cars are not built the same, some are built by the rules. Anne & Darren Breaud |
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Thank you, Mr 1chassishop for your adherence to the rules!
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Mr. Ross,
What is sad??? Is that you posted pics of a car that has some issues. When it is pointed out to you, Zac posts pics of one of our cars and states that it is built the same illegal way this car is, and goes on to talk about all of our cars. I posted a pic of the floor pan in a brand new cobalt to show we do put the factory floor pan in our cars. All B&B cars have been build the same since 2005, by NHRA specs and rules. Now, lets address the issue of the firewall! NHRA Rule Book 2009, page 125 SS/GT states, " A complete one-piece steel firewall that resembles OEM must be installed, welded in place, and sealed from the driver compartment. Now you may want to remove those pics too! Now I suggest you leave B&B out of any problems you may be having. We do know the rule book, WELL! Darren Breaud |
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