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Old 06-21-2010, 09:28 AM   #1
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X-Tech,
Thanks, I meant to say NHRA-legal camshaft for A/S in 1966.
Don't think you could run 11.90's with the factory.480/.460 bump-stick.
Knew there had to be some trick with Grotheer and Stahl, leaving the line
straight and not going up in smoke, and not sending out a driveshaft
via=air-freight
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X-Tech,
Did anybody in Mopar ever try to get the 1964 Plymouth Sport Fury or Dodge Polara cars legal with the early 64' 426/385HP (Nascar) Max-wedge engine into NHRA..
11.0-1 pistons, Stage III Max-Wedge heads,.520 solid-lift camshaft, Nascar DP aluminum intake and single Holley Model #4160 (860cfm) w/center-feed inlet (part# 2532095)
Would have fallen nicely into the 8.70-9.49 wt/hp break. Would have
been a perfect A/Stocker for 1964/65, and B/Stocker for 66' instead of the over-rated 426/365HP Street-Wedge over-rated at 365HP. T
The 426/385HP would have been one great street/strip engine.

R/T.
Max-Wedge Stage III heads had bigger ports, added bridging for the deck surface,
2.08 intakes/1.88 exhaust valves, crescent-shaped combustion chambers and the sides of the combustion chamber (intake side) cut for improved flow, as well as an additional 0-degree
top dress angle on the valve seats, and the heat cross-over port removed/closed. An easy
40HP+ over stock cylinder heads.

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Old 06-21-2010, 01:47 PM   #2
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Neil,
1970 NHRA Winternationals, Stock Eliminator Champ,
Rich Charbonneau, 67' Fairlane Wagon 427/410 HP, E/Stock
I think it may have been classed in B/S in 67. Ran 12.05's.

Also, that is when Dick Landy won B/MP with the 69' Dodge Charger
Hemi 'Flyin Wedge'. 10.74 and set record. A little confusion out there.
During the 69' season, the Charger ran in SS/F (heavy car), then into B/MP at the end of 69' and early 70'.
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[QUOTE=Paul Ceasrine;193584]Neil,
1970 NHRA Winternationals, Stock Eliminator Champ,
Rich Charbonneau, 67' Fairlane Wagon 427/410 HP, E/Stock
I think it may have been classed in B/S in 67. Ran 12.05's.

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Rich,
Just where can you get one of those Ford Fairlane Station Wagons that runs in the 9.00-9.49 wt/hp bracket?
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X-Tech,
Thanks, I meant to say NHRA-legal camshaft for A/S in 1966.
Don't think you could run 11.90's with the factory.480/.460 bump-stick.
Knew there had to be some trick with Grotheer and Stahl, leaving the line
straight and not going up in smoke, and not sending out a driveshaft
via=air-freight
PC
X-Tech,
Did anybody in Mopar ever try to get the 1964 Plymouth Sport Fury or Dodge Polara cars legal with the early 64' 426/385HP (Nascar) Max-wedge engine into NHRA..
11.0-1 pistons, Stage III Max-Wedge heads,.520 solid-lift camshaft, Nascar DP aluminum intake and single Holley Model #4160 (860cfm) w/center-feed inlet (part# 2532095)
Would have fallen nicely into the 8.70-9.49 wt/hp break. Would have
been a perfect A/Stocker for 1964/65, and B/Stocker for 66' instead of the over-rated 426/365HP Street-Wedge over-rated at 365HP. T
The 426/385HP would have been one great street/strip engine.

R/T.
Max-Wedge Stage III heads had bigger ports, added bridging for the deck surface,
2.08 intakes/1.88 exhaust valves, crescent-shaped combustion chambers and the sides of the combustion chamber (intake side) cut for improved flow, as well as an additional 0-degree
top dress angle on the valve seats, and the heat cross-over port removed/closed. An easy
40HP+ over stock cylinder heads.
The combo wasnt listed in the guide back in that era. If anyone ever tried to get them listed as stock I never heard about it. Never saw one either except at a NASCAR race.

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X-Tech,
Only asking about that combination, because of a recent Richard Petty
biography.
In early 1964, his light-blue Belvedere was running with 385 HP on the hood. Couldn't figure out what is was. Then saw his crew pulling the engine. A Max-wedge engine, with a DP intake and monster 860cfm
center-feed inlet Holley.
A little research, found it as a 426 11.0-1 pistons, Max Wedge Stage III
heads, .520 camshaft solid-lifter, aluminum dual-plane and the Holley.
A neat 385HP.
A 3350lb. car with that HP would fit into the 64' (8.70-9.49 wt/hp) of A/S.
The Belvedere was a tad light, but the Sport Fury #3407 weight would have been a good fit. Car would have made a nice B/S in 68'
Surprised this never made it. Going by the calculations, can't see this
engine combo not doing at least 12.20's back-in-the-day.
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X-Tech,
Only asking about that combination, because of a recent Richard Petty
biography.
In early 1964, his light-blue Belvedere was running with 385 HP on the hood. Couldn't figure out what is was. Then saw his crew pulling the engine. A Max-wedge engine, with a DP intake and monster 860cfm
center-feed inlet Holley.
A little research, found it as a 426 11.0-1 pistons, Max Wedge Stage III
heads, .520 camshaft solid-lifter, aluminum dual-plane and the Holley.
A neat 385HP.
A 3350lb. car with that HP would fit into the 64' (8.70-9.49 wt/hp) of A/S.
The Belvedere was a tad light, but the Sport Fury #3407 weight would have been a good fit. Car would have made a nice B/S in 68'
Surprised this never made it. Going by the calculations, can't see this
engine combo not doing at least 12.20's back-in-the-day.
PC
NHRA wasnt as stupid back in the day.....lol. They wouldnt have put up with the BS going on today with the tech people they used to have. I miss "FARMER".
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