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Old 06-22-2010, 11:56 AM   #1
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Joe, your in car camera shot was very cool (even if it was you kicking my *** lol).

As for Jeggie; sometimes it would be nice if people saw the car in person before jumping to conclusions and bashing him. He is putting alot of effort in stock eliminator which I think is very cool. He's legit and a very talented racer who is working hard to win in stock and that will consistently win sooner than later. The hand motion in the video is just a "motion" for technique purposes....not a transbrake nor is it a hand activated two step.

I'm not asking you to give him a break because of who he is (like some people mentioned) but to give him a break because he is legit and works as hard at it as anybody I have seen.

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Fine the switch is not hooked up explain to me how the non perminent blinder is legal. Or is it that if you are legit and work hard it is ok to cheat. You just cant be a also run and be lazy and cheat. As I see the rule it is peretty clear the blinder he grabs and throws in the video is NOT LEGAL. I did not have to be there to see it it was brodcast to the whole world to see.
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:03 PM   #2
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Fine the switch is not hooked up explain to me how the non perminent blinder is legal. Or is it that if you are legit and work hard it is ok to cheat. You just cant be a also run and be lazy and cheat. As I see the rule it is peretty clear the blinder he grabs and throws in the video is NOT LEGAL. I did not have to be there to see it it was brodcast to the whole world to see.
Novassdude,
As Fletcher said before, blinders should be banned altogether. It would certainly make for safer pits because there wouldn't be ss, stock, and comp guys driving around the pits with pieces of cardboard etc blocking their vision. So back to your above post and you using the word "cheat". Pretty harsh words. Let's put things in perspective here; you are acting as if Jeggie had a huge advantage on the run because he removed the blinder after launch. Well then again maybe that is what you think? Hmmm..... At any rate, I am sure he will have it "permanently attached" by next race. As for the slight harmless (non advantageous) oversight by not having it attached.... again, let's put things in perspective here.

Btw which nova do you drive?

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Old 06-22-2010, 06:44 PM   #3
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This is what I find funny about this whole thread. We as a group stk and ss racers are killing our own sport. You may say it's NHRA but really it's not. It's all the cry babies that bitch on forums like these but have no balls to take a stand and voice there opinion face to face.
People continue to CRY about buttons, blockers, fuel, closing the lanes, this guy was late, this thing, that thing, bla bla bla!!!! Buttons on the pedal, buttons on the steering wheel and buttons up peoples @##! Who cares!!!
I have this question to the "older crowd" the people that complain about what the younger generation that's now involved in this sports does.. WHAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE JOINING STOCK OR SUPER STOCK? Who? Who is going to join a bunch of crying drama queens that jump to there own unproven decision? No one.. What younger person can afford a10, 000 motor to go stock racing because the dropped indexes? Who? Oh you’re getting it now... No one!!
The best is you bash a person, a family and most of all a company that has done nothing but go out of there way and will go out of there way for any sportsman competitor!
These are people ( Fletcher, Biondo , Jegs and many others) that expose our sport to other levels. That don' t want it to end.
To the people that cry about new ways to win.. Here you go. There's these gps things that people drive around with in there car.. Oh most of us now have them in there tow rigs. Take the units out and put them in your race cars for first round. Punch in the thing " SCALES" .. That is the only way most of you guys will find them.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:39 PM   #4
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As for the slight harmless (non advantageous) oversight by not having it attached.... again, let's put things in perspective here.


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Seems to me that having a cam a few thou. too big or a slightly higher than stock rocker ratio in a stocker would be "slight" and "harmless" (non advantageous) but it is still against the rules.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:58 PM   #5
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Well I guess we disagree on the fact that it is ok to cheat if it is only a little cheat. As far as the blockers go I think if they are going to allow them Jeggies type would be better than the perminent ones as far as safety in the pits.

I drive or drove (been awhile) A 1970 NOVA Stocker #5970 That I hope to have back out soon.

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Old 06-23-2010, 11:52 AM   #6
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Seems to me that having a cam a few thou. too big or a slightly higher than stock rocker ratio in a stocker would be "slight" and "harmless" (non advantageous) but it is still against the rules.
SS Engine Guy,
Are you saying throwing the blinder down after launch gave Jeggie an advantage on the tree? That is what I meant by 'non advantageous'. I agree, a blinder that isn't permanently mounted is "against the rules" but you can't compare it to having a cam too big which does give a performance advantage (so be it a little one). The best I can compare having a blinder that's not permanently attached is to compare it to forgetting to put your window net up on a run and I bet if one of your friends did that you wouldn't make a big deal of it. An official would give you a warning to put the net up next time...

Anyway, like some said here... let's put this to rest and remember why we do this.... for the fun and friendly competition. If we saw someone leaving off the top yellow in super stock; that would be cause for an uproar, not this.

Scuba Steve,,, thanks for the props bud. This kind of stuff (people making something out of nothing) reminds me why I go bracket racing more often. Had a blast this weekend at Mikes race!

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Old 06-23-2010, 02:00 PM   #7
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I think this forum was created to talk about the positive aspects of this sport. A place for racer's to post topics about what was going on around NHRA and IHRA Class Racing. A select few have turned this forum into something very negative with very little positive discussion. Some people on here have turned this thread into a " Jeg Coughlin" bashing session. And for what reason? He made a mistake. I'm sure everyone on here has made a mistake at some point. It is really great to see Jeg racing in the stock eliminator category. His racing in stock will also bring more exposure to the class because of it. Many on here I'm sure will disagree with me.....because they have nothing positive to say about anyone at any time. Keith brought up a good point. Sanctioning bodies aren't destroying Stock/Super Stock racing.....the racers are. Why would someone young want to get involved with these classes? After reading a few threads on here they would probobly lose interest very fast due to the negativity and "conspiracy theories" of some. Like Peter said, discussions like these are a reminder of why I go bracket racing more.

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Old 06-23-2010, 02:06 PM   #8
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Default Re: Jegs in car stocker video

I have seen a lot of nutty threads on message boards, and this one has to be right at the top.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:24 PM   #9
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One thing that has not been mentioned is Jeggie shifting the transmission to "safe neutral" after finishing the run. On those type of shifters, reverse/neutral are on the same detent. I have the same shifter that he has. To go into reverse on my transmission, you have to engage the trans brake to back up. I am not saying he has or uses one, just making a point. Dyno
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:55 PM   #10
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Maybe Jeggie just accomplished what he set out to do------gain an advantage by getting into your heads by way of ESPN. Great manipulation of the media. LOL
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