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Old 08-19-2010, 10:08 AM   #1
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Great selection Mark, rumor has it that Teuton is putting this combo in a GT car. Why bring a knief to a gun fight. LOL
He already has, read his post ...
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:14 AM   #2
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That motor came in a DP car. I have one, still intact. If I were building a SS DP, I would start with a wreck sorta like Conutry Dog does because you are going to modify them so much, it would be a lot cheaper. With the 360, it is a natural SS/JA car. I ran mine in SS/KA cause I'm fat. We got a new 360 for this year for the Duster in GT that Kevin is gonna drive. Should be on the dyno Friday. We will also freshen the old motor which is a Top Stock motor that I recycled into GT cause I'm a green kinda guy. And I guess all them Cobalts and Cavalieres don't have hand picked, underfactored, crate motors? I love you guys.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:07 PM   #3
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That motor came in a DP car. I have one, still intact. If I were building a SS DP, I would start with a wreck sorta like Conutry Dog does because you are going to modify them so much, it would be a lot cheaper. With the 360, it is a natural SS/JA car. I ran mine in SS/KA cause I'm fat. We got a new 360 for this year for the Duster in GT that Kevin is gonna drive. Should be on the dyno Friday. We will also freshen the old motor which is a Top Stock motor that I recycled into GT cause I'm a green kinda guy. And I guess all them Cobalts and Cavalieres don't have hand picked, underfactored, crate motors? I love you guys.
Jeff, can I go to the dealer and order me a new street car with that engine? That would be cool. Which model do I order to get one? Challenger? 300? Magnum? Which one?

If you check around you will find all the Cobalts and Cavalier GT cars do have engines that came in street legal new cars, emissions legal with a warantee. I don't think you could call those crate motors since you can pull one from a stock, street legal vehicle and build it.

I would build one like you have if I were starting over, those are killer combos. Smart thing to build. It will be fast even before you get it all sorted out. Like Drooze's car.

If I had one I don't think I would try to convince anybody it's not a crate motor. Everybody knows better. Ford now has them too. If you can't buy it in a street car, it's a crate motor. Like the GM HT383, etc.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:17 PM   #4
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Oh, I'm not trying to convince anyone but me. You know, even the engineer in charge of this program with Mopar said it would be a lot more fun and better for the factories if GM were to participate. That would really be fun. I'm trying to convince them to do a blower in a ss car and let me have No 1. I need that, a hole in the head, a new wife, and 6 more kids also. Just to clear that up, my wife and I have been together for 50 years, married for 45, I don't need a new wife.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:30 PM   #5
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That motor came in a DP car. I have one, still intact. If I were building a SS DP, I would start with a wreck sorta like Conutry Dog does because you are going to modify them so much, it would be a lot cheaper. With the 360, it is a natural SS/JA car. I ran mine in SS/KA cause I'm fat. We got a new 360 for this year for the Duster in GT that Kevin is gonna drive. Should be on the dyno Friday. We will also freshen the old motor which is a Top Stock motor that I recycled into GT cause I'm a green kinda guy. And I guess all them Cobalts and Cavalieres don't have hand picked, underfactored, crate motors? I love you guys.
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What truck (year and model) did this motor come in with Part # P5153847 al. heads on it.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:58 PM   #6
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It is a2009 motor. It evolved from 1993 truck to the 1998 R/T which had R/T heads and a single plane manifold, then both the stock heads and the r/t heads disappeared and the motor resurfaced in 2009 with the alm heads. The number you quoted is the casting number, but the part number for the heads is P5155285 for stock and the number you quoted is legal for ss. Part # & casting number is same for ss. I have both heads in stock if you are interested.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:04 PM   #7
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Bryan, the Top Stock motor was converted to DP by cutting the dome off the piston, putting up the runners, putting holes in the runners for injectors, getting the cc's right. The problem is the Top Stock motor had a 580 lift cam and hydraulic rollers. That is what it still has. Ran a fastest last year of 9.85 @ Silver Dollar in good air in GT/FA. The dp motor was sorta based off that motor in T/STK. See, it was stock all the way. In the Top Stock configuration it ran a fastest of 9.52 @ 138 @ 2880 lbs with an 850 Q/F carb when it was fresh. The last run it made last year my son Joey lost Myron P. in Baton Rouge @ 9.67 @ 137. We have run that motor in various configurations since 2002. For SS, we also had to remove the plastic hood with the scoop that was worth at least .06.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:19 PM   #8
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Ed.......Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real.

That will never happen with Danny there, Thats why he dont do Nationals. He sure would fix things, I have no doubt.
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Jeff don't I count , I ran that motor in my dart some in top stock best of 9.,79
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Chuck I did read his post, I said GT car. Sorry I confused you, he ran this combo in SS last year not GT
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