Is it time to fix Super Class Racing?

[Rich Biebel]

Billy Leber said it best.....I have been around Super racing since the beginning and all that has happened is it has gotten way more expensive. And also become more dangerous due to the speed. We went 9.90 at 135-138 and the racing was very close. Side by side within a car length usually every run. Now everyone has to keep up with the big speed guys or your out there like a duck.........trying to judge the stripe.

In S/G today 165-170 is what most of the "players" are running

In S/C 175 to 185 and I routinely see people step up in power and end up in the winners circle.....

It is similar in Super ET bracket racing or maybe they should rename it fast dragster racing.......'cause doorcars are generally out after a few rounds....

I personally would like to see some sort of change but I am not sure exactly what would work.

I do like to watch T/D and if I had the HP I'd run it.......

[Bill Baer]

Billy & Rich you guys seem to understand what I'm talking about.

[chebby2]

Dial the car right and there is no need to look over until the 1000 ft . Leber is right, but just make do with what you have and spend time making it work.If it's time for a change spend it on your driving. Slow cars still turn on win lights.

[BKSG1198]

If you can cut a light and put it on a .90 it doesn't matter if you go 175mph or 112mph (Take it from someone who goes 112 mph) all that matters is that little light bulb on the score board

[Bill Baer]

Originally Posted by chebby2

Dial the car right and there is no need to look over until the 1000 ft . Leber is right, but just make do with what you have and spend time making it work.If it's time for a change spend it on your driving. Slow cars still turn on win lights.

What you say it true but the concept of the index was to keep cost down the use of timed throttle stops and big MPH combinations has the opposite afffect and having equal or a bigger MPH has it advantages when it comes to driving the finish line.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

[DOS VETTES]

Hey Baer, Why dont you start out with all these changes in the Midwest Supercomp Assoc. as a test bed and let us all know how it worked out! I'll be willing to bet you can stack your changes in the corner with Obama's and wait for them both to happen!

[Bill Baer]

Originally Posted by DOS VETTES

Hey Baer, Why dont you start out with all these changes in the Midwest Supercomp Assoc. as a test bed and let us all know how it worked out! I'll be willing to bet you can stack your changes in the corner with Obama's and wait for them both to happen!

Well All of the MWSCS guys also race NHRA and IHRA stuff so asking them prove this works would handi cap them when them race elsewere so I wouldn't even ask them. I wouldn't consider removing my throttle stop and slowing down 10 MPH under the current rules

As to your last statement your probably right there is too much money to be made by the NHRA's sponsors selling motors, block and heads ect. to ever expect it to change. But nothing ever changes as long as we accept the status quo. Remember that these classes got created because we ask for them I see a problem with the way things are going and I wanted to start a conversation about how we could possibly fix it.
(Compareing my suggestion to Obama's changes is a low blow Buddy!, I gonna have to call dirty pool on that cut!)

[SSTRACER323]

Great topic Baer,

I had to get out of my S/ST car because of cost. The cost of entry fee's taking time off work, fuel, parts and lack of pay out.
I love Div racing it was great fun, good people (even you Root) hahaha
It just got out of hand, changing perfectly good belts every 2 years, changing out shields that had nothing wrong with them. It just got crazy.
Then being skipped over and over in rotation, run at 9:00 and then the next run at 2:00??????? why so long between rounds.
Sorry off the topic....

I did not mind being chased. I adapted to it and made it work ok. I never won a race but made it to the semi's 3-4 times and the qtrs 3-4 times. My car topped out at 132. I really don't now what can be done, do we try a MPH limit? Do we go with a Cubic Inch limit? I think that 150mph in S/ST is a bit much, but that is just my opinion.

I am interested to see what people come up with.....

[chebby2]

Gee, nobody wants to go back to " THE WAY IT USED TO BE". Do you think a 180 car wants to hit the brakes racing a 160 car . Most will say no.
So lets all run what you got, spend what you can afford and have fun . If you go to the starting line thinking you can't compete with your car then you've already lost, stay at the trailer and drink beer...

[Bill Baer]

Originally Posted by SSTRACER323

Great topic Baer,

I had to get out of my S/ST car because of cost. The cost of entry fee's taking time off work, fuel, parts and lack of pay out.
I love Div racing it was great fun, good people (even you Root) hahaha
It just got out of hand, changing perfectly good belts every 2 years, changing out shields that had nothing wrong with them. It just got crazy.
Then being skipped over and over in rotation, run at 9:00 and then the next run at 2:00??????? why so long between rounds.
Sorry off the topic....

I did not mind being chased. I adapted to it and made it work ok. I never won a race but made it to the semi's 3-4 times and the qtrs 3-4 times. My car topped out at 132. I really don't now what can be done, do we try a MPH limit? Do we go with a Cubic Inch limit? I think that 150mph in S/ST is a bit much, but that is just my opinion.

I am interested to see what people come up with.....

Dough Boy I feel your pain when it comes to the NHRA Div. races that why I don't go to many of them. As to your suggestions The NHRA purposed a MPH limit for S/C but some one (probably their contingency sponsors) quickly squashed that and cubic inch limit could work, but might just lead to higher spinning motors for the bucks up guys and 150mph SS/t isn't a bit much, it's absolutely ludicrous!

I too am interested to see what other people come up with