Drag Pak/Cobra Jet FX classes

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Well I guess it would be possible the left doesn't know about the right and if your having direct communication with Grahm Light that would trump my conversation with the S/SS Committee Chairman this last week.

So I suppose when you say "we", there is a group and it looks like a big lawsuit is in the making with your group vs. NHRA. Since I assume your group must have a winning attitude and can endure the cost of litigation, what then will be your course of action?

And brand loyalty? LOL! Yes I like the AMX but with only a handful in action, it sure wouldn't make much sense to think there is an advantage in having one! And I see a DP 5.9 falls right into my SS class.

Yes, I am a member of a group of people who are attempting to reverse some of nhra's more egregious actions. Like nhra taking away our membership rights. Sitting on our hands is not an option for us. We don't buy this mighty nhra nonsense.

There are many ways to resolve problems here in the good old US of A. Like seeking assistance from government agencies that have jurisdiciton over these organizations. There is no need to file lawsuits, but we would win if we decided to go that route. nhra does have a pretty bad record when it comes to major lawsuits. The Pro Stock Truck racers scared nhra so badly that it refused to provide any court ordered documentation about itself and opted to make a large payment to the PST racers instead. The spanking by the PST racers proved that nhra has many problems when it comes to litigation. And believe me it was a real down home spanking!

It's nice to know that your brand loyalty is reserved for AMX. Many people thought you had been fooled into believing that nhra was really trying to help the members.

[Peter Ash]

Will not a great light (0.00?)and dial still beat a faster car or force a breakout?
After all this is still bracket racing, is it not?

Is it only people that have been protecting/hiding their performance potential that are complaining here. Maybe time to come out of the closet, eh?


Peter Ash

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Peter Ash

Will not a great light (0.00?)and dial still beat a faster car or force a breakout?
After all this is still bracket racing, is it not?

Is it only people that have been protecting/hiding their performance potential that are complaining here. Maybe time to come out of the closet, eh?


Peter Ash

Isn't that what this thread was about? The ability to "dial" against the factory experimental cars as opposed to be required to run them heads-up.

Take the fastest LT1 Firebird (pick a year), LS1 Camaro, early model Mustang (Conte), or any other C/SA that meets that same rules that Pendarvis is utilizing and tell me that the prior mentioned cars are only a good light away from a win.

Don

[Peter Ash]

Originally Posted by Dgal

Isn't that what this thread was about? The ability to "dial" against the factory experimental cars as opposed to be required to run them heads-up.

Take the fastest LT1 Firebird (pick a year), LS1 Camaro, early model Mustang (Conte), or any other C/SA that meets that same rules that Pendarvis is utilizing and tell me that the prior mentioned cars are only a good light away from a win.

Don

Ok, you are told. Force a breakout?

Peter

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Peter Ash

Ok, you are told. Force a breakout?

Peter

Peter,

I know I am dense, but you are not making any sense to me. You cannot breakout in a heads up race. Pendarvis is running a Drag Pak in C/SA and has Conte covered by at least a second if he is running at weight rather than 300 lbs heavy.

Don

[Peter Ash]

Originally Posted by Dgal

Peter,

I know I am dense, but you are not making any sense to me. You cannot breakout in a heads up race. Pendarvis is running a Drag Pak in C/SA and has Conte covered by at least a second if he is running at weight rather than 300 lbs heavy.

Don

Sorry, I must have missed the part where all sporstman races are heads up, and the presumtion "if he is running at weight"!

Peter

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Peter Ash

Sorry, I must have missed the part where all sporstman races are heads up, and the presumtion "if he is running at weight"!

Peter

You are just being obstinate. Nowhere was it posted that all sportsman races are heads up. I was very specific about running Pendarvis' Drag Pak against the other cars in C/SA. That is the class he is running the car and it has been well posted that he was 300 lbs heavy when he ran the 9.79.

The entire thread is about heads up situations that shouldn't be. These cars are running against other cars in heads up and should be running against each other like they eventually did with the fuel injected cars until the horsepower ratings got corrected.

Don

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Peter Ash

Sorry, I must have missed the part where all sporstman races are heads up, and the presumtion "if he is running at weight"!

Peter

All races between cars of the same class are heads up no break out. For example, any time a C/SA faces another C/SA in any eliminations at an NHRA event, it is a heads up no break out race. Yes, the new cars have put top of the line traditional combinations on the trailer with ease during final eliminations.

[Larry Hill]

Mr Ash this is Class racing!! Shoe polish and driving skill will not overcome a 100 hp. disadvantage at the rear wheels in a heads up race. I have raced all of the combinations of the cars that fit A/SA in the past year.

The outcome was this: Lost to Johns 1st round at BG and he was at B/SA weight. Lost to Warford 1st round of class at Indy with him easing off the throttle. Lost to Wolfe 1st round of eliminations at Norwalk Nationals. Lost in the fourth round in Seattle to Kevin Cour. He was only running 4 mph faster at the 1/8 mile and ran a slower mph.at the finish line.
I am hoping that Sean Cour reads this and will give me some direction on how to make my car competitive with the new CJ/DP cars in a heads up race.

This old dog is always begging for new tricks!!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Mr Ash this is Class racing!! Shoe polish and driving skill will not overcome a 100 hp. disadvantage at the rear wheels in a heads up race. I have raced all of the combinations of the cars that fit A/SA in the past year.

The outcome was this: Lost to Johns 1st round at BG and he was at B/SA weight. Lost to Warford 1st round of class at Indy with him easing off the throttle. Lost to Wolfe 1st round of eliminations at Norwalk Nationals. Lost in the fourth round in Seattle to Kevin Cour. He was only running 4 mph faster at the 1/8 mile and ran a slower mph.at the finish line.
I am hoping that Sean Cour reads this and will give me some direction on how to make my car competitive with the new CJ/DP cars in a heads up race.

This old dog is always begging for new tricks!!

Nitrous, more cubic inches, ported heads? I doubt porting the heads would help any of the old cars in this case......OOP's some are already doing the latter and it dosent help seem to help them against the new cars.