Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac

[Alan Roehrich]

The death of Pontiac, much like the death of Oldsmobile, is just another sign of how poorly GM has been managed over the last 4 decades.

One article mentioned a Pontiac dealer with a brand new Solstice in his showroom. It's still there because they want $32K for it! It's a $20K car, if they'd have sold them, and their Saturn twin for that, they'd have sold plenty. I like it, it's a cool car, but it ain't $32K worth of cool. It'd make a great little fun commuter car for 1-2 people. But for crying out loud, it's a small, 4 cylinder, two seat car, that is not terribly fast, nor capable of exceptional handling.

Between Roger and Herb, GM was completely screwed and nearly hopeless. And it hasn't gotten much better. A horrible business model, and an even worse development department, has brought them to the brink of disaster, and past, nearly to extinction, which is very possible.

When Oldsmobile and Pontiac died, they weren't making Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs, they were making over priced cookie cutter cars that were boring as crap. Buick is next.

I have several GM products, a Buick, a Pontiac, and an Oldsmobile among them. GM has not been run by car people in decades, and the car people that are at GM are locked in some back room in a hidden building, with their hands tied. Frikkin two ton Camaros, indeed.

It will only get sadder, if GM is sold to the Chinese, and that IS possible. The only funny thing about that is the fear it strikes in the UAW.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

The death of Pontiac, much like the death of Oldsmobile, is just another sign of how poorly GM has been managed over the last 4 decades.

One article mentioned a Pontiac dealer with a brand new Solstice in his showroom. It's still there because they want $32K for it! It's a $20K car, if they'd have sold them, and their Saturn twin for that, they'd have sold plenty. I like it, it's a cool car, but it ain't $32K worth of cool. It'd make a great little fun commuter car for 1-2 people. But for crying out loud, it's a small, 4 cylinder, two seat car, that is not terribly fast, nor capable of exceptional handling.

Between Roger and Herb, GM was completely screwed and nearly hopeless. And it hasn't gotten much better. A horrible business model, and an even worse development department, has brought them to the brink of disaster, and past, nearly to extinction, which is very possible.

When Oldsmobile and Pontiac died, they weren't making Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs, they were making over priced cookie cutter cars that were boring as crap. Buick is next.

I have several GM products, a Buick, a Pontiac, and an Oldsmobile among them. GM has not been run by car people in decades, and the car people that are at GM are locked in some back room in a hidden building, with their hands tied. Frikkin two ton Camaros, indeed.

It will only get sadder, if GM is sold to the Chinese, and that IS possible. The only funny thing about that is the fear it strikes in the UAW.

Couldn't have said it better! Alan, you are so right! Jim