100957.00 really

[Andys dad]

OK since you guys don't like me posting I will make this my last

I will let the car do the talking - if it can

Hell this car has not even "officially" been on the drag strip yet and you guys are whining and complaining

OK now to the responses -

1) "underrated V10" - name any engine that does not make a lot more HP than it is rated and I will show you an uncompetitive engine
2) "waste of money" - last time I checked it is my money - well some of it is - the rest belongs to the bank
3) "built in roll control" - not going to have it (no trans-brakes in stock)
4) "11 qt oil pan" the Viper has an oil pan capacity of between 8.5 to 10 quarts depending on the year and model

Finally - I am not by any stretch of the imagination - rich. I have a very fast older car. I have just decided to go for the gusto - one last time. I do not make the rules but I have spent a lot of time trying to take advantage of everything that NHRA allowed.

Why should this be any different as I approach the twilight of my life?

NHRA will make the necessary corrections over time - if and when they are needed.

[hemidup]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

OK since you guys don't like me posting I will make this my last

I will let the car do the talking - if it can

Hell this car has not even "officially" been on the drag strip yet and you guys are whining and complaining

OK now to the responses -

1) "underrated V10" - name any engine that does not make a lot more HP than it is rated and I will show you an uncompetitive engine
2) "waste of money" - its my f-ing money
3) "built in roll control" - not going to have it (no trans-brakes in stock) for those of you that do not read the rules
4) a stock (oh there is that word) Viper has an oil pan capacity of between 8.5 to 10 quarts depending on the year and model (do your homework)

Finally - I am not by any stretch of the imagination - rich. I have a very fast older car. I have just decided to go for the gusto - one last time. I do not make the rules but I have spent a lot of time trying to take advantage of everything that NHRA allowed. Why should this be any different as I approach the twilight of my life.

NHRA will make the necessary corrections over time.

I'd love to own a V10 powered car, just love the sound of a V8 better cause that's what I grew up with. Just finished up with a Slant 6, 11 second Duster build....A Slant 6 will away's sound like the Red Barron during a dive bomb, they always have, they always will, but this Duster makes us proud.

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

1) "underrated V10" - name any engine that does not make a lot more HP than it is rated and I will show you an uncompetitive engine

NHRA will make the necessary corrections over time - if and when they are needed.

To interject some humor here, at Indy one year Joe Lunati laughed when I told him I wanted to race a 351C 2V, he told me it might not even make the factory horsepower!

[Larry Fulton]

Ok, enough already!

Quit beating on these guys that have purchased these cars....
I'd love to have one just to say I had one, and I'm no proponent of these as stockers.

IMO - stock & super stock as we've known it (since the beginning) has long gone left the barn years ago.

Stockers now days are super stockers, and super stockers are now comp. cars...

and it's all the fault of nhra / ihra that they have allowed this bs to go on as long as they have.

When it comes right down to it, does it really matter anymore?.... All of these class cars are bogus and that's what the racers wanted.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Larry Fulton

Ok, enough already!

Quit beating on these guys that have purchased these cars....
I'd love to have one just to say I had one, and I'm no proponent of these as stockers.

IMO - stock & super stock as we've known it (since the beginning) has long gone left the barn years ago.

Stockers now days are super stockers, and super stockers are now comp. cars...

and it's all the fault of nhra / ihra that they have allowed this bs to go on as long as they have.

When it really comes right down to it, does it really matter anymore?.... All of these class cars are bogus and that's what the racers wanted.

NO its NOT enough. All of these new cars are making all the other cars obsolete in their respective class. Get the HP factors right, fair and I will shut up. NOT before then.

[Larry Fulton]

Originally Posted by x-tech man

no its not enough. All of these new cars are making all the other cars obsolete in their respective class.

No *****!

Get the hp factors right, fair and i will shut up.

that's my point, it ain't happen'n!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bob Pagano]

X2 I will also stop if nhra dose the right thing. Believe me when I say nhra reads this forum, that was told to me a couple of years ago as I was told "watch what you say" so I am letting my feelings be known besides sending my complaint in writing. I will not sit by and watch bad hp after bad hp continue year after year. It needs fixing now.

[X-TECH MAN]

The sad part is the racers who are affected will not stick together. Not enough are complainning or plan to just park their rides until this BS is corrected. The only other option is to race some IHRA but that is not something everyone can do due to the lack of events in the west. Besides who knows if IHRA will even be around as a true sanctioning body after this year or next ? Isnt it about time for some of you to have a back bone !

[Bill Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by Larry Fulton

Ok, enough already!

Quit beating on these guys that have purchased these cars....
I'd love to have one just to say I had one, and I'm no proponent of these as stockers.

IMO - stock & super stock as we've known it (since the beginning) has long gone left the barn years ago.

Stockers now days are super stockers, and super stockers are now comp. cars...

and it's all the fault of nhra / ihra that they have allowed this bs to go on as long as they have.

When it comes right down to it, does it really matter anymore?.... All of these class cars are bogus and that's what the racers wanted.

You are touching on a subject that many don’t want to admit or swallow especially for those who are heavily vested in older combos.
Class racing like ALL other forms of motorsports be it SCAA, IMSA NASCAR you name it they (we) all continue to evolve. Remember where this all started? Win Sunday sell Monday. If there is going to be factory support which IMHO is necessary for survival of the sport the factories will want their stuff to have an edge otherwise why get involved. If you threw a couple hundred horsepower on one of the DP’s and it ended up way down the qualifying list what’s Joe average spectator (assuming we have any LOL) going to think? ….Challenger is a dog I want a new Mustang. I think Ford really got it right now with the mod motor K car. It will be fast and readily available to racers and the public. For those of you who think we will survive as a sport flogging our 30-50 year old muscle cars and expect the old cars to stay on top is wishful thinking.

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Larry Fulton

Stockers now days are super stockers, and super stockers are now comp. cars...

History keeps repeating itself!