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Old 11-18-2010, 01:52 PM   #1
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none, that's why i won't run one like that.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:59 PM   #2
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Chip, I can;t answer for the others, if I had to venture a guess, I would say most racers like racing against other Class cars, as opposed to a true Bracket car. I've done both, had no problem doing either. I guess I prefer S/SS races for the reason I stated, plus most S/SS combo's are a better entry/payout ratio, or pay more to win, potentially (Hagerstown last weekend was $100 to enter, $2,000 to win).

As far as the S/SS Association races I put on, most tracks we run at don't have scales or fuel check equipment. Plus, I don't have the money to pay someone (like a Terry, Duane, etc) to show up and do the tech and post-run checks. Because of that, we don't have qualifying or heads-up runs. The only real rule is that a racer must dial the Class Index or quicker, and I would say 99% of the racers at my events over the past thirteen years have been safely under, with no need to cheat (weight, carburetor, etc). I guess you just assume if one is not 100% legal, they all are that way. Hence, no advantage to it, with the no heads-ups/qualifying rules.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:13 PM   #3
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The ASRA races at New England Dragway and Lebanon Valley are combo races and have always run heads up races flat out no breakout, no dial in. This year we had 60-68 cars at 5 of our 6 races and 50+ at the other one. So it is not hurting our turnout.

I don't know how many other associations are doing it this way, but it has not hurt us, it probably has helped us. At our last event I think we had 3 heads up races. It certainly adds a little excitement and fun.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:18 PM   #4
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I won't race at one like that again

I went to one where they allowed a bracket car to run as a SS car

You forgot one other rule they didn't have to be able to run the index either



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Old 11-18-2010, 02:28 PM   #5
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One reason the combo races at Bowling Green draw 50-60 cars or more is because they do have heads up races and scales. I have no desire to run the "no heads up" combo races. We have run them, but just to support the association, not because we like racing without the possibility of heads up races.
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One reason the combo races at Bowling Green draw 50-60 cars or more is because they do have heads up races and scales. I have no desire to run the "no heads up" combo races. We have run them, but just to support the association, not because we like racing without the possibility of heads up races.
I wish they would have weighed at the combo at No Problem, but it wasn't Pat's deal. I'm thinking I may need to find a "summer home" for the I/SA camaro up there so I can run the combos
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:49 PM   #7
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It would be nice to have some in our part of the country because all the No box races don't allow transbrakes. I can't even enter to get seat time/testing time. All I can do is go with the Electronics classes and that means only 3 time trials, if lucky) and one round of real competition. In my book, You guys that have S/SS Associations are very fortunate.
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:08 PM   #8
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I was told at the Sac Combo by Tech and Director that Gary Evans and I would have weighed and fuel checked for a heads up second round. They should check fuel and weight if points are awarded.
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I'd be okay with heads-up runs and scales at Combo races. I know fuel check would be far more difficult to do on such a small level (equipment, knowledge, resources, time), and I really don't think someone's got a drum of 10% Nitro sitting in the trailer just for a heads-up run at a little Combo race. I think people pretty well police themselves on that level.

While I bracket race my Volare and Turismo, I very much enjoy running S/SS races for something different. While bracket racing the Turismo, I deep stage and use a stripe taker. At Fayetteville's S/SS Combo on Saturday, I'll be shallow, the stripe taker comes off, and it will be dialed welllll below the index! (Thank God for 1/4-mile racing, in this instance!)
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Chip, I can;t answer for the others, if I had to venture a guess, I would say most racers like racing against other Class cars, as opposed to a true Bracket car. I've done both, had no problem doing either. I guess I prefer S/SS races for the reason I stated, plus most S/SS combo's are a better entry/payout ratio, or pay more to win, potentially (Hagerstown last weekend was $100 to enter, $2,000 to win).

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Gezzz Mike....I would have done it for nothing although I got to watch and BS more by just coming up with "Dyno" Don....LOL. Now Im all the way down here in the land of sun and warm weather.
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