Question Please

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by R Brown

and use a stripe taker. ?????????????????
????????What's this?

In bracket racing, it it legal to have a stripe taker, a fixed piece of metal located under the nose of the car that trips the finish line beam. Some cars naturally trip the finish line with the nose, spoiler, front fascia, air dam, spill plate, etc., while others trip the finish line with the front tire. In the case of my Turismo, the nose is pretty low, but it passes over the finish line, except when I lift or hit the brakes, then the front end drops low enough to trip the beam early: if I hit the brakes right at the stripe, I'll go a couple hundredths *quicker*, because I hit the finish line with the nose instead of the tire. The front end is so low on the car that my stripe take is only about 1-1/2" tall... that's all it takes to trip the finish line consistently. When Class racing, I remove the stripe taker and have to change my finish line driving style (and have to go back to shallow staging and change my starting line driving style.)

Study those Super Stock Cobalts, and late model Camaros in Stock, and see what's hitting the finish line, the nose or the tire? And is that answer the same if the driver hits the brakes? Just stuff to be aware of.

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

(and have to go back to shallow staging and change my starting line driving style.)

Ah yes, deep staging. Those were the days.


-Toby

[THE LEGEND]

Dave,
Was not talking about any race in particular. I know that all the combo's I ever ran were simply a bracket race. I was just making a point about some of these "CLASSY RACERS" who are to good to bracket race but still run the combo's.
I think the real reason is they are scared to get their ***** handed to them by some lowlife bracket racer in a beater.LOL

The only new car for me next year will be long and skinny with the motor in the back.
My 18 yr old wants to race and we are undecided about putting him in a footbrake/stocker or my Camaro.
Lot depends on the money which right now not a lot.
Chip

[THE LEGEND]

On a side note about the "CLASSY RACERS".
I was impressed with a few things this season: In no particular order:

1) Jeff Hefler doubles at the bracket finals then goes to Pomona and almost doubled again.

2) Watched Duckboy win a Top E.T. $3,000 race at Rockingham in his stocker.

3) Duckboy won a race of champions race with the "Kiddie Car"

4) Scotty Stillings got r/u at the NHRA div5 bracket finals in Top E.t. with his Super Stocker.

I know there were a lot more amazing feats this year of Stockers kicking butt.
Congrats guys.
Chip Johnson

[greg fulk]

Chip for me it's NO BUY BACKS!!!!!!!!!!! Look if you come to race & get beat 1st round GO HOME or run the "gamblers race"!

[THE LEGEND]

Buybacks and double entries too. I will give ya'll that one. Thats why I like going to the IHRA/NHRA races.
Chip

[Rusty Davenport]

Instead of telling class racers they are scared or they will get their ***** kicked, why don't you wake up and grow up.....people do things because they WANT TO for their own enjoyment or pleasure......including RACING FOR THE FUN OF IT !!! NOBODY is going to get rich or famous either way.

[Dave Ribeiro]

Chip,

I don't think they are scared , because they get there butts kicked in NHRA & IHRA .... I also think they do much more racing in brackets
than you will ever know.... They just don't brag about it & keep a low profile ... As Greg & others say they don't like some of the rules , Boxes,no-box, buy-backs,staging lane games, etc.... But, they do go bracket racing and do pretty well ... Lot's of NHRA guys don't like 1/8 mile or IHRA either, but they doesn't mean they are scared.. Lot's of good racers never go to National / Div. events ....

You see it's all about having choices on where & when to race, thank God we still have some choice's ... As we have said before there are great racers in both NHRA & IHRA ... It's just too bad more of them don't cross-over more often... I know
that in most cases there aren't IHRA tracks close by for alot of racers. Choice's & the $$$$$$ are hurting racing & tracks ....

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Ah yes, deep staging. Those were the days.

There were 6 or 7 Stockers at the Fall Footbrake Frenzy the other week, and at least three of us were deep staging! An R/SA, J/SA, and DF/S... go figure... That's okay, we still find a way to compete in Class races, even if we're at a disadvantage. There's a lot of "fast car" guys out there that would be lost in the woods trying to drive something like the Dime Rockets of Ed Fernandez and Billy Nees! But, because "majority rules", I'm sure the rule will never be revisited. It'd probably be an embarrasment to the marketing department to have slow cars win.

Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport

people do things because they WANT TO

I do agree with you. I also think that a lot of S/SS guys have a limited schedule that they want to run, and when they set that schedule, it's probably going to be points races, and most events outside of that aren't even on their radar.

To each their own, live n' let live, etc, etc...

[danny waters sr]

I do both ,i need the practice. With my work schedule and money limitations i just do not have enough seat time. Had plenty back in the day and have won more than my share in bracket racing (not in class racing YET ). Nothing wrong with either. Growed up watching the likes of Bobby Warren ,Garley Daniels , Ronnie Yopp, Dick Henry, Troy Humphrey an Ed Mcglawhorn and the list goes on..... The point is they were class racers and very good at it. My dream was to be able to race like they did,but i only had a budget for bracket racing , It still did not stop me from the dream i had. Some start out as class racers and some do as i did and work their way to their dreams. If truth was know there are a lot of both now days for this very reason. I used to go to the dragstrip at KDS and mark the windows at tech (for free ,just to get in to the races and watch). I am proud to say my shoe polish has marked a few champs in those days and some are still doing it. Do what you choose , I do both and have FUN at it.