2011 ahfs - Page 2

X-TECH MAN · 11-20-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong

You are 100% wrong. Lets say Joe Blow has a big block Camaro? And very deep pockets. He goes out spends money and gets the combo factored to death. Now the low buck guy can't run the index in the hot weather.
Is this your idea of having fun?

The only way to cut costs is with strict rules enforcement. And we know that ain't going to happen.

Enforcement hasnt happened for years in "Certain Areas" of the engine so it wont start now !

Adger Smith · 11-20-2010, 11:45 AM

Good points Stocker 2, But

You loose the Performance issue of Stock and SS. What does qualifying become? It becomes time trials where you learn what to dial first round and beyond. It leaves the race with only one incentive to go faster. Possible heads up runs. Oh, there is one other incentive, EGO..... The way the quota entry system works it kills the 128 car qualifying issues. If you have a race with a 70 quota you are in if you just attend. Indy and a few div 1 races will be the only places you are in a situation to go fast and make the 128 cutoff. So There goes that reason to be fast.
How is this going to hurt the bread and butter business of Stock/SS engine and head suppliers? It looks like if a guy wants real performance he has to race in TD or TS where the qualified field still stands for performance.

Stocker 2 · 11-20-2010, 12:26 PM

"You lose the Performance issue of Stock and S/S." And your point is???? Look where the pursuit of performance has gotten us. It is on the verge of destroying Stock.

With an AHFS hit, it would take several times to keep a BB Chevy from running the index. Less than 10% of the cars cannot run at least .3 under. Besides it does not take $5000 heads on a Stocker to run below the index.

One of the problems is $25K engines and $5K heads in Stock. That don't sound like bread and butter to 2/3 of the racers. Some of you guys have priced yourself into too high a level in the name of performance (and ego). You've been paying everyone else FOR horsepower in order to go fast, now its time to start paying WITH horsepower for going too fast.

Billy Nees · 11-20-2010, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

How is this going to hurt the bread and butter business of Stock/SS engine and head suppliers? It looks like if a guy wants real performance he has to race in TD or TS where the qualified field still stands for performance.

I will never be too awfully worried about " the bread and butter business of Stock/SS engine and head suppliers" as some(not all) long ago "sold their souls" to customers that were willing to pay for "enhanced" parts.Now those same customers are dealing with Ford and Chrysler for their "enhanced" parts.
Just like NHRA doesn't care enough to throw out the bogus parts, they certainly won't care about throwing out some bogus horsepower ratings.

11-20-2010, 12:39 PM

This becomes a safety issue also. How fast safely can you run a 9 inch tire car and at what weight? You guys with the AA-C cars and even slower know what I am talking about. More than once I have had both hands at 1000 ft and the pucker factor at about 10!
I don't think NHRA will make any changes for fear of loosing any deals they have with Ford and Mopar. It's a done deal.

11-20-2010, 11:45 AM	#2
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: 2011 ahfs Good points Stocker 2, But You loose the Performance issue of Stock and SS. What does qualifying become? It becomes time trials where you learn what to dial first round and beyond. It leaves the race with only one incentive to go faster. Possible heads up runs. Oh, there is one other incentive, EGO..... The way the quota entry system works it kills the 128 car qualifying issues. If you have a race with a 70 quota you are in if you just attend. Indy and a few div 1 races will be the only places you are in a situation to go fast and make the 128 cutoff. So There goes that reason to be fast. How is this going to hurt the bread and butter business of Stock/SS engine and head suppliers? It looks like if a guy wants real performance he has to race in TD or TS where the qualified field still stands for performance. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 11-20-2010 at 11:46 AM. Reason: sp

11-20-2010, 12:26 PM	#3
Stocker 2 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 137 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 2011 ahfs "You lose the Performance issue of Stock and S/S." And your point is???? Look where the pursuit of performance has gotten us. It is on the verge of destroying Stock. With an AHFS hit, it would take several times to keep a BB Chevy from running the index. Less than 10% of the cars cannot run at least .3 under. Besides it does not take $5000 heads on a Stocker to run below the index. One of the problems is $25K engines and $5K heads in Stock. That don't sound like bread and butter to 2/3 of the racers. Some of you guys have priced yourself into too high a level in the name of performance (and ego). You've been paying everyone else FOR horsepower in order to go fast, now its time to start paying WITH horsepower for going too fast.

11-20-2010, 12:39 PM	#5
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2011 ahfs This becomes a safety issue also. How fast safely can you run a 9 inch tire car and at what weight? You guys with the AA-C cars and even slower know what I am talking about. More than once I have had both hands at 1000 ft and the pucker factor at about 10! I don't think NHRA will make any changes for fear of loosing any deals they have with Ford and Mopar. It's a done deal.

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