Gettin' back into it..

[Dick Butler]

I would be very hesitant to build any car that would have to compete in or near a NEW car from Chrysler or FORD. You are just spending money to finish last. Either build a new car of enjoy spectator till the HP are corrected. Or you can consider it a learning experience.

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

I would be very hesitant to build any car that would have to compete in or near a NEW car from Chrysler or FORD. You are just spending money to finish last. Either build a new car of enjoy spectator till the HP are corrected. Or you can consider it a learning experience.

Hey Dick.. After researching it a little more..I am considering building my 98 Dakota R/T or one of my other cars. I didn't realize I would be running against the new DP and Mustwangs..bad choice. I have a couple of other cars I can work with too.
I have wondered how my 65 Valiant 2 dr sedan would do with the 273 in it. I want to get back on the track, but I want to be able to go rounds.

[Ken Kopecky]

Just a quick question - how often do you think that you'll run heads up against one of the new DP/CJ cars? I think that you'll go a lot of rounds before getting a heads up with one the them. I myself race for the fun of it and if I have to go heads up against one of them, well, that's drag racing. I'll be back at the next race to do it all over again. You're going to get one winner and one loser no matter who's in the the other lane.

Ken Kopecky
1454 E/SA

[Ken Miele]

borninamopar,

With all do respect to Jim and Dick, I would go ahead and build the combo you like. There is only one new car in the classes your 64 Dodge can run and none in the lower classes. Like Ken said, the chances of running into a new car is slim. I would be more worried about the fast old cars that are in your classes.

You seem to have a handle on the many aspects in building your car. The tech section here is a great resource and should make getting back into stock more enjoyable. Try not to let some of the members that may be a little down on class racing discourage you. Its not to say they are not in the right, but life is to short, have fun and go ahead and build what you want.

[Dick Butler]

I agree Ken, Build what you like with the understanding that the points meet agenda of dial in is a great deal of fun. The only issue today is Heads up. If you want to try to win a Trophy for class it might be harder if a new car falls in the class. Life IS short and we all deserve to have a good time. Enjoy as many of the positives of this racing as we can. Good Luck.

[Jeff Lee]

No disrespect for Mr. Butler, but he got out of Class racing YEARS before the DP / CJ cars were in the pipeline. I think the DP / CJ cars are just the excuse some were or are looking for.

If you really like your '64, build it! Go Stock with a 383 or build a SS with any engine you want that's in the class guide for Dodge under the SS/GT rules. There is a spreadsheet listed elsewhere.
Admin - that would be a GREAT sticky! (2nd request)

[GTX JOHN]

As I recall the 1967 375 HP engines had 2.08 and 1.75 Valves and were stamped HP on flat area on front of head. The lower HP versions such as in the full size none HP "C" body had 2.08 and 1.60 valves. Only apparent difference was valve size...casting was identical on all 915's. You do have to run original stock size exhaust valve on early engine 1.60......but they still work fine. John Irving

[Dick Butler]

Thanks Jeff, It is true I am out of the racing actively. When I first started racing Class winner was a Major deal. At first I thought I would build what " I liked" not knowing that my favorite was factored poorly, had a bad wt break and couldnt compete.
Then I felt that to WIN a Class Trophy I had to use the added advantages provided in OTHER ways by NHRA rules.
Factoring IS the BIG advantage which actually out weighs hard work in todays class racing. If you do BOTH and drive good you can be unstoppable in class.
Eliminator removes the need for "good factoring "till Heads up runs.
Todays S and SS provides much more dial in eliminations and reward for this racing and can be fun with almost any combination. It just might not be a Class Trophy Winner.

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

As I recall the 1967 375 HP engines had 2.08 and 1.75 Valves and were stamped HP on flat area on front of head. The lower HP versions such as in the full size none HP "C" body had 2.08 and 1.60 valves. Only apparent difference was valve size...casting was identical on all 915's. You do have to run original stock size exhaust valve on early engine 1.60......but they still work fine. John Irving

Hey John, you are correct the 67 915's have the larger exhaust valve and the 66 model 915's have the smaller valve, but the 66 heads also have a higher floor and longer transition and hump than the 67 heads with the larger valve. At least according to the heads I have and have worked on. But, do the 66 915's flow better straight "stock" than the 516 head. Hope I have all these part numbers correct, tryin' to pull them out of a toasty head from the holidays. Still, I know the rules dictate stock sized valves.

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

As I recall the 1967 375 HP engines had 2.08 and 1.75 Valves and were stamped HP on flat area on front of head. The lower HP versions such as in the full size none HP "C" body had 2.08 and 1.60 valves. Only apparent difference was valve size...casting was identical on all 915's. You do have to run original stock size exhaust valve on early engine 1.60......but they still work fine. John Irving

John, you are correct that the 67 head had the larger exhaust valve. the 66 head has a smaller exhaust valve, but also differs in that the exhaust floor is higher and also the transition into the exhaust is higher and longer that the 67 heads. At least in all the various sets I have. I have another question, and it is "Do the 66 915's flow better than the 516 heads straight "stock"?
And I appreciate all the positive feedback, about my choices, since it seems the racers that are tryin' to talk me out of it drive chevies or fords.
I believe that both cars would be very competitive, and may build both and make my daughter drive what she calls "Ugly little car." We can always try to take them with numbers huh. Thank's ya'll I feel welcome here.