Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

[herbjr]

So I guess Buddy Martin shouldnt be proud of what he did since he owned the cars and never drove them. Or how about almost every NASCAR TEAM there are only 3 owner drivers out there, Or Vinney Barone for spending money to give Biondo a ride in the comp car. I mean my opinion is if you have enough income to do this at that level then let those people do it. Why bitch because someone can afford to do it this way, I cant afford to run a Challenger or Mustang but I dont have a problem for anyone who has WORKED THEIR *** OFF TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY to be able to buy one. I dont like alot of things in this world but if someone wants to spend 100K to run a stocker then thats their business.

Herb jr

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by herbjr

So I guess Buddy Martin shouldnt be proud of what he did since he owned the cars and never drove them. Or how about almost every NASCAR TEAM there are only 3 owner drivers out there, Or Vinney Barone for spending money to give Biondo a ride in the comp car. I mean my opinion is if you have enough income to do this at that level then let those people do it. Why bitch because someone can afford to do it this way, I cant afford to run a Challenger or Mustang but I dont have a problem for anyone who has WORKED THEIR *** OFF TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY to be able to buy one. I dont like alot of things in this world but if someone wants to spend 100K to run a stocker then thats their business.

Herb jr

Well said Herb

Also some guys choose to have a $300k motor home and trailer.

I am going to tow on a $1500 trailer and race a $100k car.

BTW - I am very proud I have worked and been able to afford it


:-) peace

[dragracer9911]

Wade, as you know, I have a lot of respect for you as a man and for your fabrication abilities. I grew up in this sport with Dicke Estevez, who build everything from the car to the engine. He fabricated the car, did the body work and painted it. He did minor upholstry work. Even though he was not a transmittion man, he has rebuilt his C6 the night before a race when he couldn't get it fixed but the trans man of the day. He has rebuilt the rear as well. But, having that be said, he also had different engine builders, transmittion men, and rear end men as well. At one point in time, he worked with a can shaft company to help develope FE cams, to the tune of a cam a week. He commisioned a guy in NJ to make a base intake that allowed a 351 Torker to fit a FE motor. As you also know, hin and Alfred did rollbar and tub work to support the "habit". He did most of it because he couldn't affo0rd to pay someone to do it.
I guess what I am driving at is, not everyone can do what you or Dickie, or a lot of other people can do, or they can to up to a point. Most everyone has a fabricator do their suspension, tubes and rollbars. Most have a engine builder, trans man, or get their rear for Strange or Mark Willimans, etc. In alot of ways, these guys that are racing "Factory" car are rebuilding them after they get the car. I know a stock racer that has a competitive older mustang that Ford gave him a body in white, some exterior trim and some interior trim and he still has over $70,000 in the car and it's not finished yet. In hind sight, he wishes he wasn't give the "free" car.
We allo do what we can with what we have, whether it's a Class car, a bracket car, or street rod. Some may look at your roaster and say look at that guy, "guess we all know who has the money". I may know what it took for you to build that car, how much work and time you personlly spend on it, what you sacrificed to afford what you didn't fabricated or all the side work you did to be able to afford it, but the average guy doesn't know that.

Tom Sr.

[B.D.D.2]

Originally Posted by herbjr

So I guess Buddy Martin shouldnt be proud of what he did since he owned the cars and never drove them. Or how about almost every NASCAR TEAM there are only 3 owner drivers out there, Or Vinney Barone for spending money to give Biondo a ride in the comp car. I mean my opinion is if you have enough income to do this at that level then let those people do it. Why bitch because someone can afford to do it this way, I cant afford to run a Challenger or Mustang but I dont have a problem for anyone who has WORKED THEIR *** OFF TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY to be able to buy one. I dont like alot of things in this world but if someone wants to spend 100K to run a stocker then thats their business.

Herb jr

Very well said!!

[JHaleyH374]

Personally, I take pride in not only being able to drive my car, but being able to work on it as well. There's just something special about knowing every nut and bolt in your car and being able to point to it and say "Yeah, I did the work and drive it too!"