Could Super Modified been different if?

[WestCoastChris]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

How did you win this race ? when turned on the red light against the late great Lee Shepard,

Ran good enough to win the 77 Cajun Nationals, but in the rain delayed 2 AM final, turned on the red light against the late great Lee Shepard, who happened to have a broken rear-end in the Modified Production Camaro he was driving during his Pro Stock hiatus

Arlen built a real fast car, as guys like him and Don Bowles started builing these "high dollar" cars,

Boy are you off on this one High $$
Fadely' Body in white was $477.00 form Walt hickey Ford in southgate MI neat thing about Body in white deal was Ford paid shipping and it was shipped from assembly plant which was Kanasas City which was closer to Floydada TX than Flat Rock.
Hardy's bill was just under $1,800.00 for his work.


The Boss motor had a definite advantage, then the Chevrolet contigent convinced NHRA to split, so B/SM became the Boss Class

As I remeber Houser's car was as quick as your out WEST and in the east FJ Smiths was faster that yours in 1978

Ralph, I did not bad mouth you or Arlen, I just don't see what you have to be so bitter about. If you feel Arlens' car was built on a budget, I will not argue that. I already mentioned that Arlen was fast and outran Jimmy Stevens on numerous occassions. Tell me why you are so bent on badmouthing someone who was willing to help your team out in any way he could.

I am just remembering the good times we had, and to leave Jim Stevens out of the discussion of Super Modified history is just plain wrong. Get out your National Dragsters, Super Stock & Car Craft Mags and check the facts, if you must.

Arlen Fadely is the King of Super Modifieds, he could not have done it without you out Ralph.



also:
"Ran good enough to win" is not the same as "won". He had the fastest car there, his opponent broke in the final, a red-light is driver error.

[BlueOval Ralph]

If any body was king I would have to give it to Mike Edwards and Bill Long ater all he was the only S/M racer to be World Camp and win the Quaker State Cup.

And how did he help??

Originally Posted by WestCoastChris

Ralph, I did not bad mouth you or Arlen, I just don't see what you have to be so bitter about. If you feel Arlens' car was built on a budget, I will not argue that. I already mentioned that Arlen was fast and outran Jimmy Stevens on numerous occassions. Tell me why you are so bent on badmouthing someone who was willing to help your team out in any way he could.

I am just remembering the good times we had, and to leave Jim Stevens out of the discussion of Super Modified history is just plain wrong. Get out your National Dragsters, Super Stock & Car Craft Mags and check the facts, if you must.

Arlen Fadely is the King of Super Modifieds, he could not have done it with you out Ralph.

[WestCoastChris]

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And how did he help??[/QUOTE]

Just ask Flat Rock, he'll tell you.

Bill Long & Mike Edwards were able to excel because they bought such a good car. Mike was just a kid back then, but those guys raced real hard and deserved everything they earned.

[BlueOval Ralph]

Let me tell you something Bill Long was a very good machinist and engine builder if you have any doubts Call David Nickens and ask him why he hired Bill! Give credit where credit is do! Mike & Bill earned every thing they won! They got a very good car to start with

Originally Posted by WestCoastChris

Just ask Flat Rock, he'll tell you.

Bill Long & Mike Edwards were able to excel because they bought such a good car. Mike was just a kid back then, but those guys raced real hard and deserved everything they earned.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

Let me tell you something Bill Long was a very good machinist and engine builder if you have any doubts Call david nicken and ask him why he hired Bill! Give credit where credit is do! Mike & Bill earned every thing they won! Yese they got a very good car to start with

That is right! Bill had that car running faster than when they bought it. Hardest working guys I know. Mike still is. Bill has health problems. Still goes when he can. Both guys long time friends. I tell people when Mike started racing he wasn't shaving yet, and my hair was still brown.

[randy wilson]

I never ran it in the hayday, but love the idea of using 79 rules. Although the heads would be hard to find. I still like the brodix spec deal, and let them police the head. Just a thought, I don't have an answer on how to bring it back, but they have to keep the head money out or real racing will fall by the wayside. I also want to build my own engines.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by randy wilson

I never ran it in the hayday, but love the idea of using 79 rules. Although the heads would be hard to find. I still like the brodix spec deal, and let them police the head. Just a thought, I don't have an answer on how to bring it back, but they have to keep the head money out or real racing will fall by the wayside. I also want to build my own engines.

Today you would still only allow production line heads, same as back then. The rule book never specified 1979 and older heads. Those rules could easily apply today. Personally I would favor EFI also, since that is what we have today.

[BlueOval Ralph]

I did and that's what started this!

He had already built a Maverick in 1971 and had been doing the Boss strokers since 1970 when Moldex modifed 312 Y-block cranks to fit into Boss 302 blocks. He and Leroy had been running single 4 V carbs since the AHRA GT 1 days 1970. maybee you should refresh his memory, I listed his phone number and e-mail address. You should remember that every thing that was done to that car when he was racing it from April of 75 to Ocober 78 was shown in articles in Super Stock Magazine, BTW CarCraft in late 74 did a article titled the Boss of Flat Rock on his thoughts for the first Super Modifed Ford engine he was going to build and did. It is the one with the Grump on the cover in a suit setting behind a desk.

Originally Posted by WestCoastChris

Just ask Flat Rock, he'll tell you.

Bill Long & Mike Edwards were able to excel because they bought such a good car. Mike was just a kid back then, but those guys raced real hard and deserved everything they earned.

[BlueOval Ralph]

I will ask him if he has CRS!

[BlueOval Ralph]

On more thing take a look at this web site
http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=25741.0

Aslo this site it has some pictures of the car at Hardys in December 74 when it was picked up