Could Super Modified been different if?

[WestCoastChris]

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And how did he help??[/QUOTE]

Just ask Flat Rock, he'll tell you.

Bill Long & Mike Edwards were able to excel because they bought such a good car. Mike was just a kid back then, but those guys raced real hard and deserved everything they earned.

[BlueOval Ralph]

Let me tell you something Bill Long was a very good machinist and engine builder if you have any doubts Call David Nickens and ask him why he hired Bill! Give credit where credit is do! Mike & Bill earned every thing they won! They got a very good car to start with

Originally Posted by WestCoastChris

Just ask Flat Rock, he'll tell you.

Bill Long & Mike Edwards were able to excel because they bought such a good car. Mike was just a kid back then, but those guys raced real hard and deserved everything they earned.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

Let me tell you something Bill Long was a very good machinist and engine builder if you have any doubts Call david nicken and ask him why he hired Bill! Give credit where credit is do! Mike & Bill earned every thing they won! Yese they got a very good car to start with

That is right! Bill had that car running faster than when they bought it. Hardest working guys I know. Mike still is. Bill has health problems. Still goes when he can. Both guys long time friends. I tell people when Mike started racing he wasn't shaving yet, and my hair was still brown.

[randy wilson]

I never ran it in the hayday, but love the idea of using 79 rules. Although the heads would be hard to find. I still like the brodix spec deal, and let them police the head. Just a thought, I don't have an answer on how to bring it back, but they have to keep the head money out or real racing will fall by the wayside. I also want to build my own engines.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by randy wilson

I never ran it in the hayday, but love the idea of using 79 rules. Although the heads would be hard to find. I still like the brodix spec deal, and let them police the head. Just a thought, I don't have an answer on how to bring it back, but they have to keep the head money out or real racing will fall by the wayside. I also want to build my own engines.

Today you would still only allow production line heads, same as back then. The rule book never specified 1979 and older heads. Those rules could easily apply today. Personally I would favor EFI also, since that is what we have today.

[SPS]

OK, might as well put in my two cents.

First, I don't get how Chris says it got too expensive. I built all my own stuff and remained competitive through the run of Super Mod.

Second, Arlen fadely was definately the first SM winner at the US Nationals at Indy in 1977. (I was RU to him for class)

I won class at Indy in 1978 after runner-ups in 1976 and 1977.

I looked in my album and there are 6 NHRA record certificates with my Camaro. I'm also sure that Fadely held the record a number of times including re-setting it twice in a couple weeks at one point.

Third. when you west coast guys came east "we no scare" . Voegelin was the only left coast guy that came to Indy and ran well.

Arlen and I raced hard, were very competitive, and remain good friends to this day.

Super Mod was a great class, had a lot of fun, travelled a bunch, learned a lot, and best of all, won my share.(got a shelf full of Wallys to prove it, too)

FJ Smith

[Ed Wright]

Rick was the only fast left coast SM car I remember. Stevens car was nice but I don't remember it ever being blistering fast. Neither was mine, btw.
Anybody know why the 1979 C/SM rules would not work today? Sticks and auto same weight.

[BlueOval Ralph]

I did and that's what started this!

He had already built a Maverick in 1971 and had been doing the Boss strokers since 1970 when Moldex modifed 312 Y-block cranks to fit into Boss 302 blocks. He and Leroy had been running single 4 V carbs since the AHRA GT 1 days 1970. maybee you should refresh his memory, I listed his phone number and e-mail address. You should remember that every thing that was done to that car when he was racing it from April of 75 to Ocober 78 was shown in articles in Super Stock Magazine, BTW CarCraft in late 74 did a article titled the Boss of Flat Rock on his thoughts for the first Super Modifed Ford engine he was going to build and did. It is the one with the Grump on the cover in a suit setting behind a desk.

Originally Posted by WestCoastChris

Just ask Flat Rock, he'll tell you.

Bill Long & Mike Edwards were able to excel because they bought such a good car. Mike was just a kid back then, but those guys raced real hard and deserved everything they earned.

[BlueOval Ralph]

I will ask him if he has CRS!

[BlueOval Ralph]

On more thing take a look at this web site
http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=25741.0

Aslo this site it has some pictures of the car at Hardys in December 74 when it was picked up