How would you SAVE CLASS RACING ???

[Yo Ken]

It's a shame that members can not stay on topic, please do not post unless you have a suggestion for improving class eliminations.

Art, don't take this personal, but I am tired of your insinuations about how I run this forum. If you feel you are being treated differently than others, you are mistaken. You seem to have a (why is everyone always picking on me complex), Its not all about you.

You have made post after post slamming the new program, claiming its all about how the other guy will get hurt, frankly It's getting old. If you have nothing positive to contribute to this topic, please do not post. You can post you displeasure with everything that is wrong with NHRA, me and anything else you like in your own thread. I am sure you have plenty of fans that agree with you.

I will remove every post that I deem to be not on topic. For the rest of you who didn't know why I made this post, you know now. It seems that some members do not want the new system to work, which is fine, but this is not the thread for that.


Alan, do not worry about it, I understand what you are trying to do.


Ken Miele

[Ed Wright]

People have mentioned combining stick & automatics. Since the performance difference pretty much no longer exists, what would be the down side? More heads ups, fewer classes to pay. Who, other than guys wanting to avoid heads ups would object? I know of at least one guy that put a stick in his car to stop heads ups he could not win. The shear number of SS classes has gotten way out of hand Not as much of a downside since winning class no longer has anything to do with qualifying. Evan has several good ideas.

[Dick Butler]

Alan, Extremely good post. Thank you.

[Bobby Fazio]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

People have mentioned combining stick & automatics. Since the performance difference pretty much no longer exists, what would be the down side? More heads ups, fewer classes to pay. Who, other than guys wanting to avoid heads ups would object? I know of at least one guy that put a stick in his car to stop heads ups he could not win. The shear number of SS classes has gotten way out of hand Not as much of a downside since winning class no longer has anything to do with qualifying. Evan has several good ideas.

Ed there were 2 stick cars and Chevy A GO GO modified stick car out of an 80 car field at the Reading Nationals last year. I don't think 2 cars avoiding heads-up runs is the problem. We need more ESPN2 exposure.. how do we get it? Tell me who to petition to and I will.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by SStock1373

Ed there were 2 stick cars and Chevy A GO GO modified stick car out of an 80 car field at the Reading Nationals last year. I don't think 2 cars avoiding heads-up runs is the problem. We need more ESPN2 exposure.. how do we get it? Tell me who to petition to and I will.

Bobby, I'm talking about singles for class. More races, cuts trophy costs and fewer classes for contingency sponsors to pay. But the one I know is probably not the only one avoiding heads up pairings.

[dahkahuna]

change the wt break inSuper Stock to 6.00 to15.00 pounds per hp, for both SS &GT eliminate modified classes , Super Stock is for factory production avaliable cars with with production spec engines..Modified belongs in comp.This format would make for closer racing with hadicaped e.t.'s of 8sec to12 sec Stock because of its entry level draw must have 1 pound breaks from 6.00 to 20.00 pounds per hp. With handicaped e.t.s of 9.00 to 16.00 both stick and auto run together all auto cars get the 3 speedsautos. concerning the modified class they can easily build a Super Stock spec'ed engine much cheaper or go and run heads up in comp.Nhra needs to get their hand out of the cookie jar and let all the contigency monies go to the guys that support the SEMA manufacturers.Let the SEMA sponsors set up either a cash or voucher system handled directly between them and the racer and have flexibility as to sponsor when or where it benifits their products marketing either by a race or geographical area. LET THEM SET THEIR SPONSORSHIP however they want FLEXIBILITY IS THE KEY.......just my 2 cents

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

People have mentioned combining stick & automatics. Since the performance difference pretty much no longer exists, what would be the down side? More heads ups, fewer classes to pay. Who, other than guys wanting to avoid heads ups would object? I know of at least one guy that put a stick in his car to stop heads ups he could not win. The shear number of SS classes has gotten way out of hand Not as much of a downside since winning class no longer has anything to do with qualifying. Evan has several good ideas.

Ed combining them is great. They need to get rid of the weight break for auto's. The auto guys are just as fast or faster now. There isn't another H car in D4 so I have no problem with them combining the classes. Now if they combine a number of classes I hope Colvert doesn't show up!! LOL

[Larry Hill]

Lower the contingency sponsor fee to $250 for the administration fee. Only have sponsors pay for what is won for class and or the eliminator.
Have the product registered with the sponsor in their data base.
Verify that product decals are displayed.
View falsification of product use as a serious rules infraction carrying a penalty of 90 day suspension for first offense.

Enforce the rules as written. When rules infraction are noticed ,competitors should have a choice on fixing the infraction. Fix it now and race or go home and fix it before the next race. This should eliminate discussion on east coast, west cost rule books.
It is the racers responsiblity to comply with the rules.

Remove and or correct mistakes made by tech. department that gives a combo a distinct advantage. IE. Reduction in stock crank pin size from 2.437 dia. to 2.200 dia.

Class winners first, then the remainer of 128 car field filled by higher qualifers. This will help us keep our diversity in the eliminator. People in the stands enjoy seeing new, old and differant.

Get the Hp. correct on all the new cars. Yes tech. missed it the first time. You know how bad it is when Dan Fletcher changes combos mid year so he can try to provide for his famliy. Dan qualifed 129 at Indy this year.

Bottom line: treat the sponsors fairly and thank them for there financial support they give to the class racer.