I'm confused about IHRA's Sportsman friendliness

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Well, if you're going to run some NHRA events this year, you better get used to it. By my count, there are about 375 cars at Bradenton.

Do you think IHRA would be able to run a doubleheader in two days with 400 cars?


-Toby

Probably because there would not be any Alky cars on the grounds to keep the track from rusting....LOL.

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Well, if you're going to run some NHRA events this year, you better get used to it. By my count, there are about 375 cars at Bradenton.

Do you think IHRA would be able to run a doubleheader in two days with 400 cars?


-Toby

It would be nice if enough cars showed up to put IHRA through the test. But even if it took 3 days, it would still be 2 races in the same time frame as NHRA's one! And, as has been mentioned often, one trip and less entry fees.

[Toby Lang]

You really think they could give two time runs for each event and get it done in three days with 400 cars?

I'm no division director, but that seems a little bit optimistic to me. As you said, it would be nice if they had enough cars to try it!


-Toby

[Rich67stang]

IHRA can handle same amount of cars, 2 time trials on sat and 1 on sun before eliminations each race. So @ the NHRA div this weekend you get there thurs and do not run first round until sunday, and you guys say this is better racing and do not go to IHRA events weeks before. Enjoy! talk about brain washed...wow.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Well, if you're going to run some NHRA events this year, you better get used to it. By my count, there are about 375 cars at Bradenton.

Do you think IHRA would be able to run a doubleheader in two days with 400 cars?

Could they do it with 400? Certainly not. However, 375 - Unleashed (47) - Comp (12) - Top Alky (11) = 305... a far cry from 400.

We average 52 seconds per pair, including downtime. 2 time trials, plus 10 min of cooldown time between each of the last 3 rounds (EVERY class, so we're building in and accounting for an EXTRA 3-1/2 hrs of downtime for cooldown, etc.)
S/ST 44 1hr 48m
S/G 57 2hr 12m
S/C 72 2hr 37m
SS 33 1hr 32m
Stk 43 1hr 48m
TS 23 1hr 12m
TD 32 1hr 25m
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13 hours

Long day? Yep, but they absolutely could do it. As a matter of fact, they have. Carolina Dragway 2007, 286 cars, Race #1 done in 12hrs (including Jet cars, wheelstanders and other 'show' stuff they booked in), Race #2 (1 time trial) done in 7hrs 45min. (I think 2006 was bigger, but can't find stats) And given *3* days, it not only could be done, but done comfortably.

I announced at the Div. 2 Bracket Finals last year... 400 cars. We ran 5 races in 5 days.

Like Myron said, why doesn't everyone just flood the IHRA events and show them how they "can't" do it. LOL (Please, nobody mention the 2009 World Finals!)

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by borninamopar

You answered your own question. I know our T/S -Outlaw car we race every now and then when we can AFFORD to, is because it costs a whole helluva lot more money to build and maintain a T/S car then most SS. Guess that is why they pay out more. Isn't that any class anywhere? The faster you run, the more money you get. Makes sense to me.

Dude, Your compleatly wrong on this. A simple search of RacingJunk would easily prove that. T/S cost more, sure. But the FACT is, No matter how many cars show up in both classes, T/S will take home 3 times as much money as ANY other class. Thats 300%. Do you get that? Are you really that much better than us? The separation between SS and SST aint even close to 300%. I bet you can get way more runs out of a similarly built T/S motor than a SS. Don't act like a T/S car comes close to a compairable TAFC in operation cost. If you think that most SS cars have less than 50K in them, then allow me to think of most T/S cars as S/G's with the trottle stop off (cuz thats what would qualify at Palm beach, and is going to qualify at BR). The separation in building and opperating cost aint even close to 300%. Don't even get me started on what type of car can claim more contingencies. Its illegal in S/SS to run half the list.

I'll be at BR and from what I see, you will too. So, you know my name. Come get me and we will take the qualifing sheet from T/S and SS, ride around, drink a beer, and maybee we will both do a little self educating on how much it really cost to qualify up top and on the bottom of both classes.

[THE LEGEND]

Top Fuel get more than SS too.DUH

If you want Top Sportsman paayout then go build one.

I don't understand what payou has to do with IHRA being Friendly.

Every Check I ever got was handed to me with a smile.
Chip Johnson

[Hagen Gary]

This isn't about wanting anyone elses payout. Its about attracting more cars in every class by throwing a little equality into the payout. Your not going to get any NHRA only regulars to come out for this. Your solution is to stear me away from S/SS or any .90 car and say "go build a T/S car". Great logic there buddy.

[Mike Pearson]

Gary,

After I got back from the Nitro Jam race in Palm Beach I recieved an e-mail from IHRA asking me what my opinion of the Nitro Jam program was. I responded to Scooter Peaco's E-Mail address that was given on the original e-mail. I gave him my opinion of what I thought and he responded back very quickly with a response and a thank you for the input. I would strongly suggest that you send him an e-mail with your ideas and your concerns. They do seem to be genuinely interested. We do need to support all of the associations that run our classes. With out the support the program will not grow.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

What's your proposed entry fee and payout structure for Stock and Super Stock?

...and how many cars will come to participate in it?

This isn't about wanting anyone elses payout. Its about attracting more cars in every class. Your not going to get any NHRA only regulars to come out for this. Your solution is to stear me away from S/SS or any .90 car and say "go build a T/S car". Great logic there buddy.

No, I think we're all trying to figure out what is it *exactly* that you want?