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Old 02-16-2011, 10:48 AM   #1
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Brandon , Did Homer try my converter yet ?
Danny i really dont think he has yet he is covered up and last i had talked to him he hasnt had anytime to mess with his race cars....if you need it back i can let him know
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:43 AM   #2
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I did a little more "Homework"
Take the 5 fastest SS cars by E.T. at that event.
SS/BM Larry Cummings, Hammond LA, '06 Cavalier 8.368
SS/AM Brad Plourd, Maple Valley WA, '05 Cavalier 8.568
SS/BM Kevin Helms, Schriever LA, '95 Achieva 8.604
SS/BS Byron Latino, St. James LA, '09 G5 8.831
SS/CM Slate Cummings, Hammond LA, '08 Cavalier 8.857

Now take the entire field of 15 T/S cars at that event, and using that fancy math again, you get an avg. of 7.399333, or lets just call that 7.40.

So, 30% of the SS field are within .94-1.45 secs. from qualifing MID-WAY through the T/S pack? Larry is less than a second from the #6 spot! They do that with 1/2-1/3 the Cubic Inches, no laughing gas or turbo/SC, weighing 3-500 lbs more, in a factory produce(Not all fiberglassed out) body. One of them even does it with 1 carb. Nevermind the Hemi's that are right behind the mods in E.T. They do it with more Cubic Inches than the mods, but weigh a bit more and do it with 1960's Factory Parts!

Yeah, You T/S boys "Lay it Down" allright. I'm impressed!
I wonder how easy it is leaving off of the top bulb.

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Old 02-16-2011, 01:39 PM   #3
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easy, Hagan, don't have a stroke....you got it right but you'll never convince the TS TD Bracket crowd, they just don't get it...like my partner says: "anybody can put a big engine in a little car....it means nothing"

somebody, somewhere has a bigger engine in a littler car

try 265 CI at 3700 lbs
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:57 PM   #4
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And of course the T/D and T/S crowd are the reason we race 1/8 mile at 1/4 mile tracks! Lets go faster...
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:09 PM   #5
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Does IHRA still run pro mod at their nationals? If not I assume that they are trying to use TS and TD to replace them hoping the fans wouldn't notice. I think that the IHRA nationals Pro show has turned into a joke from a true competition aspect.

It is not really any different than NHRA and there pro classes. Look at their pay out at nationals and who pays what and who wins the big purse.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:13 PM   #6
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Does IHRA still run pro mod at their nationals? If not I assume that they are trying to use TS and TD to replace them hoping the fans wouldn't notice. I think that the IHRA nationals Pro show has turned into a joke from a true competition aspect.

It is not really any different than NHRA and there pro classes. Look at their pay out at nationals and who pays what and who wins the big purse.
Yes the Pro Show (If you can call it that) is a joke and no they dont have pro mod (or pro stock) anymore. Gezzzzz. they barely have any sportsman cars show up !
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:25 PM   #7
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Gary,
The more you post the more I realize how confused you really are.

You are comparing top of the line SS cars to an avg T/S E.T.
How much more would the SS car have to spend to pick up enough e.t to run the Minimum in T/S.

I'll bet that GTO cost a whole lot more to build than $70,000.

Was'nt Helms car for sale not long ago? How much was it? I'll bet half of the original cost!


If you are so unhappy with IHRA Stay home.

I think you also need to retitle this post to something like:
CRAZY GARY TALKING OUT HIS ***** AGAIN.

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. Gezzzzz. they barely have any sportsman cars show up !
And that is the Crappy part. IHRA really does care about Sportsman racing. Problem is, A lot of people won’t give it a try because NHRA is still a better bargain once you figure in all the emotional ties to NHRA, to all the racers that support them, and the limited number of races most can make. It's MY opinion that IHRA should outweigh that emotional tie with more of a financial draw. It might take a bit but people will realize it’s stupid to go race for half the money at NHRA. Then all of a sudden all of your friends are racing IHRA, and that brings more money and fun to both parties. I don't even think you need anything above T/S, T/D to make it work.

You can say it won’t work all you want, but the fact remains. What they are doing now isn't working either, at a time when NHRA has pissed off a lot of people. It’s a lot easier to raise the prize money to attract racers than it is to attract racers to raise the prize money. We all know that.

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Old 02-16-2011, 02:53 PM   #9
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easy, Hagan, don't have a stroke....you got it right but you'll never convince the TS TD Bracket crowd, they just don't get it...like my partner says: "anybody can put a big engine in a little car....it means nothing"

somebody, somewhere has a bigger engine in a littler car

try 265 CI at 3700 lbs
And most have a big baby bottle tied on to run fast enough.
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Danny i really dont think he has yet he is covered up and last i had talked to him he hasnt had anytime to mess with his race cars....if you need it back i can let him know
Nah , just wondering ....You may need it in that new ride you bought .. (A-ha ,i caught you )Mr SS/GT??
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