How about this?

Curmudgeon · 02-16-2011, 09:33 PM

Always wondered what the Pentagon's logic was for sponsoring any race car. Is it PR,troop morale,or recruiting ? Have to agree with Ed & X-Tech,gov't is damned sure expert at wasting other people's money.

Ed Fernandez · 02-18-2011, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Always wondered what the Pentagon's logic was for sponsoring any race car. Is it PR,troop morale,or recruiting ? Have to agree with Ed & X-Tech,gov't is damned sure expert at wasting other people's money.

I just read an editorial on Comp +by DSR and what they said seems to make a lot of sense.
I'd rather see the money go to race teams for public relations/recruiting than to the banana republics we send billions to in foreign aid.Half of them bastards hate us anyway.

Curmudgeon · 02-18-2011, 12:59 AM

Agree 100% on influence peddling abroad , usually comes back to bite us in the a**. Surprisingly the amounts aren't that great, they claim(FOX NEWS website) $7mil NASCAR and $5mil NHRA (Army) ,just doesn't look good when the deficit has the public's attention. If memory serves me right,their involvement started as a PR gambit at the end of VietNam era when anything military was held in low regard . I have to wonder if its a good investment when you could park a tank, a 109 and a 110 next to a card table to get "leads" as the KyARNG used to do. Seems a lot more cost effective .

Curmudgeon · 02-18-2011, 01:22 AM

BTW having been in some "allied" countries receiving our aid , had to wonder why we supported governments so anathema to our values .

FrankChastain · 02-18-2011, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed fernandez

i just read an editorial on comp +by dsr and what they said seems to make a lot of sense.
I'd rather see the money go to race teams for public relations/recruiting than to the banana republics we send billions to in foreign aid.half of them bastards hate us anyway.

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Ed Wright · 02-18-2011, 09:09 AM

I don't agree with pumping money into foreign countries either. That should also stop.

Curmudgeon · 02-18-2011, 12:56 PM

For the 2011 season this is a moot point as the checks are already cashed,2012 budget battle currently going on could be interesting as sponsorship issue could become a POLITICAL hot potato. Effect on motorsports as a whole would be minimal if DOD participation were cut out but news media ts guarenteed to blow the whole issue all out of proportion if they choose to pick up on it .

doublet · 02-19-2011, 08:42 AM

If the Army should not advertise with the NHRA or NASCAR, where should they advertise? Should they advertise at all? Seems to me that someone once determined that advertising pays dividends in the long run. Is having ads in magazines or on TV a better investment? How would that be determined?

Ed Wright · 02-19-2011, 09:37 AM

You think kids enlist because of DSR's race cars?

02-16-2011, 09:33 PM	#1
Curmudgeon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Asheville,N.C. Posts: 54 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How about this? Always wondered what the Pentagon's logic was for sponsoring any race car. Is it PR,troop morale,or recruiting ? Have to agree with Ed & X-Tech,gov't is damned sure expert at wasting other people's money.

02-18-2011, 12:59 AM	#3
Curmudgeon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Asheville,N.C. Posts: 54 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How about this? Agree 100% on influence peddling abroad , usually comes back to bite us in the a**. Surprisingly the amounts aren't that great, they claim(FOX NEWS website) $7mil NASCAR and $5mil NHRA (Army) ,just doesn't look good when the deficit has the public's attention. If memory serves me right,their involvement started as a PR gambit at the end of VietNam era when anything military was held in low regard . I have to wonder if its a good investment when you could park a tank, a 109 and a 110 next to a card table to get "leads" as the KyARNG used to do. Seems a lot more cost effective .

02-18-2011, 01:22 AM	#4
Curmudgeon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Asheville,N.C. Posts: 54 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How about this? BTW having been in some "allied" countries receiving our aid , had to wonder why we supported governments so anathema to our values .

02-18-2011, 09:09 AM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: How about this? I don't agree with pumping money into foreign countries either. That should also stop. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-18-2011, 12:56 PM	#7
Curmudgeon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Asheville,N.C. Posts: 54 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How about this? For the 2011 season this is a moot point as the checks are already cashed,2012 budget battle currently going on could be interesting as sponsorship issue could become a POLITICAL hot potato. Effect on motorsports as a whole would be minimal if DOD participation were cut out but news media ts guarenteed to blow the whole issue all out of proportion if they choose to pick up on it .

02-19-2011, 08:42 AM	#8
doublet Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sioux Falls SD Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How about this? If the Army should not advertise with the NHRA or NASCAR, where should they advertise? Should they advertise at all? Seems to me that someone once determined that advertising pays dividends in the long run. Is having ads in magazines or on TV a better investment? How would that be determined?

02-19-2011, 09:37 AM	#9
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: How about this? You think kids enlist because of DSR's race cars? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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