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First car to foul loses 145 64.16%
Worse foul loses 81 35.84%
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:21 PM   #101
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Ed ! I like yor idea, About the poll, this just like voteing, the minority loses, the majority wins ! This S#IT is just like whats going on in Madison, Wi ! The minority tries to change the VOTER'S mind to suit there point of view !!!!!!!!!.......John
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:01 PM   #102
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Good luck getting it changed Bill. Just keep on ranting.
Guess it gives you something to do.

How about we all get to retire on a minimum of $200,000.00 a year. I mean a lot of guys have that, why not all of us? Only fair, right? LMAO
That would be fine with me, but who's gonna foot the bill? NHRA could effect this change with petty cash...

So, how about we just stay on the subject at hand? This is something that is do-able, and would benefit EVERYONE, except the few guys who campaign AA/S cars.

They have everything their way, as it stands (they NEVER have to leave first.)

Why should they enjoy that "gimmeee" at the expense of everybody else?

Think about it...
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:18 PM   #103
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This kind of sums up old Bill and this thread.
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Ed,
You just can't stay focused on the subject, can you? Your character assination/KILL THE MESSENGER M.O. is so much easier than formulating an intelligent response, that you simply cannot resist...

I started online bulletin boarding on Prodigy (was the drag racing BB modulator) before the internet existed; that was in the early '90s, so I've had a long time to develop a thick skin against desultory comments from people like you, who think it makes them seem more knowledgeable than they really are.

The fact is, this first red light rule came into being ONLY as a result of the NHRA's being unable to fix it, like they did the breakout rule, 48 years ago, and kind of got shuffled into the "tha't's the way it's always been" category, so everybody, INCLUDING ME, eventually acccepted it as "the norm."

The, when it became possible (new software) to FIX it, people like you, who had been subject to its vagaries, for so many years, reacted with, "FIX WHAT???" They were so entrenched in the status quo, they couldn't understand the value in re-programing it so it would operate like the breakout software (worse infraction loses.)

So, now we have a majority of people thinking that it's just one more change to deal with.
And, they don't want another change. They can't or won't do the work of understanding what benefit it has for them...

Well, NHRA won't ever spend a plugged nickle for the software to fix it, because it won't make them ANY money... and, you know how that goes.

So, we're stuck with a 48-year-old rule that screws the first car to leave, EVERY time 2 cars go down the drag strip in a handicapped race.

Was it Warren Johnson, or somebody else who said, "You can't fix stupid"???

But keep on killing the messenger, if it makes you feel better... I've come to expect nothing of a rational, analytical, response from you... that would take some thought.
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You are the ultimate broken record.Skip,skip,skip,skip,skip,skips,skip........ ........................
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Ed,
You just can't stay focused on the subject, can you? Your character assination/KILL THE MESSENGER M.O. is so much easier than formulating an intelligent response, that you simply cannot resist...

I started online bulletin boarding on Prodigy (was the drag racing BB modulator) before the internet existed; that was in the early '90s, so I've had a long time to develop a thick skin against desultory comments from people like you, who think it makes them seem more knowledgeable than they really are.

The fact is, this first red light rule came into being ONLY as a result of the NHRA's being unable to fix it, like they did the breakout rule, 48 years ago, and kind of got shuffled into the "tha't's the way it's always been" category, so everybody, INCLUDING ME, eventually acccepted it as "the norm."

The, when it became possible (new software) to FIX it, people like you, who had been subject to its vagaries, for so many years, reacted with, "FIX WHAT???" They were so entrenched in the status quo, they couldn't understand the value in re-programing it so it would operate like the breakout software (worse infraction loses.)

So, now we have a majority of people thinking that it's just one more change to deal with.
And, they don't want another change. They can't or won't do the work of understanding what benefit it has for them...

Well, NHRA won't ever spend a plugged nickle for the software to fix it, because it won't make them ANY money... and, you know how that goes.

So, we're stuck with a 48-year-old rule that screws the first car to leave, EVERY time 2 cars go down the drag strip in a handicapped race.

Was it Warren Johnson, or somebody else who said, "You can't fix stupid"???

But keep on killing the messenger, if it makes you feel better... I've come to expect nothing of a rational, analytical, response from you... that would take some thought.
if both cars are green, or just one car goes green (those two options would be about 95% of the time) then no one gets screwed.
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:49 PM   #107
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Bill, it's not going to happen. Don't give yourself an ulcer.
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if both cars are green, or just one car goes green (those two options would be about 95% of the time) then no one gets screwed.
You're 100-percent correct.

But the POTENTIAL for a red light always exists.THAT is the scenario that is what all this is about, because it's totally unnecessary. Totally...

Is it a big deal? No.

Unless it's the final round at the U.S. Nationals, and you're the slower car, and you bulb with a near-telepathic-.999... while your faster competitor has a -.213, but, goes home with the money and the Wally...

Then, it becomes a big deal.

Has this ever hapened? I don't know, and the likelihood of it happening is small.

But it COULD.

And when/if it does, I hope it's Ed Fernandez, and his Gremlin, leaving first.
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I remember Len Imbrogno told me one time that 90% of the polls taken result in a 60% to 40% vote. Looks as if this one is no exception. Jim
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You're 100-percent correct.

But the POTENTIAL for a red light always exists.THAT is the scenario that is what all this is about, because it's totally unnecessary. Totally...

Is it a big deal? No.

Unless it's the final round at the U.S. Nationals, and you're the slower car, and you bulb with a near-telepathic-.999... while your faster competitor has a -.213, but, goes home with the money and the Wally...

Then, it becomes a big deal.

Has this ever hapened? I don't know, and the likelihood of it happening is small.

But it COULD.

And when/if it does, I hope it's Ed Fernandez, and his Gremlin, leaving first.
Oh booo hooo hoooo you've damaged my self esteem.I'll never be the same.
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