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Old 03-09-2011, 08:27 PM   #1
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:51 PM   #2
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Bull****, thats what it is. Your how many miles from home, PLUS you just raced at Valdosta. You've run the car like that for how many years? Guess you should have used dry ice on the manifold and told them you didnt. LOL, now we know why you can run 9:80's too. Im sure it will be fixed and since the mopars are using the aluminum centers all the fords will also. Time will tell. I'll just put this out there, why dont you order a cj rear with the aluminum center section and get someone to put the spring perches on it? Then you'll be good to go....Right?
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:22 PM   #3
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Ken, thanks for the heads-up. This is rather interesting, I was also told that even though the rulebook doesn't say you can't have an aluminum center, it doesn't say you can.

The rulebook doesn't say you can have any of the following non-stock parts either: aluminum spool, titanium spool, back-cut ring gear, scalloped axles flanges, or gun-drilled axles. Ironically, those are all part that have a direct effect on performance. Are we to assume these parts are also illegal?

Where is the logic?
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Ken, thanks for the heads-up. This is rather interesting, I was also told that even though the rulebook doesn't say you can't have an aluminum center, it doesn't say you can.

The rulebook doesn't say you can have any of the following non-stock parts either: aluminum spool, titanium spool, back-cut ring gear, scalloped axles flanges, or gun-drilled axles. Ironically, those are all part that have a direct effect on performance. Are we to assume these parts are also illegal?

Where is the logic?
There are lots of stockers using "Massaged" cylinder heads and intake manifolds not to mention lite pistions, pins, etc. and these parts have a direct effect on performance. Are we to assume these are illegal or legal just because they pass at one race and who knows at the next? Where does it stop? The tech guy in question was 100% right in this case. If the rule book dosent say you can do or use something then you are not supposed to do so. Its the interpitation of the rule book. Just so you all know Im on Kens side with this and think he should have been allowed to use the alum. parts but this is the way the tech guys are supposed to look at things and its been done that way for a very long time in both NHRA and IHRA. Greg X. was noted for doing things like this during his time in the barrel as tech director in Div. 1.
Hang in there Ken......It sounds like this could be your race again.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:04 PM   #5
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It was just NHRA "enhancing" you experience for the weekend. Think they put a magnet on everyones center section???? yeh, right!!
Sometimes you get picked and nobody knows why. Want to go to an interesting "tech inspection" come with me someday to an NHRA event. I had them measuring my rod-ends on my four-link one day........of course, I have mentioned them a few times in my Editorials in DRO.....

So far I have survived tech and two electronic "inspections". I asked them on the last one, why not inspect the cars that guys WIN WITH? They were not happy with that comment, they kept looking and FOUND NOTHING.

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Old 03-09-2011, 10:51 PM   #6
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Sorry to here that Ken. You won't have to miss a race to make up for the extra expense ,cause you gonna win this one ,,,,,,...........Good Luck ,I'll be pullin for you....
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:56 PM   #7
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Interesting that the rule book states that the rear end can be replaced with another "from the same manufacturer". Do the aluminum center-sections have a Ford part number? Is cast iron the only material allowed, or is the nodular case OK?

BTW - could anyone prove that someone's rear axle didn't come out of a truck if you removed the semi-floating axles?

Sorry you had this trouble, Ken. Hopefully it'll be nothing more than a speed-bump on the way to the winners circle! Good luck!

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Old 03-09-2011, 11:16 PM   #8
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I guess now to play fair, NHRA needs to tell everyone with the girdle type rear end covers that they need to have a stamped steel cover. GM never made the girdle covers, since its not OEM its wrong...Correct?
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:37 PM   #9
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Tony, Robert Pond had to remove his aluminum center section is what I was told today by a racer. I wish I would have known about it, I would not have had to go through this ordeal.

I am not going to say I didn't get upset about what happened, but I can't let it ruin my week. I know its allot of money but there are so many other things in life that are so much worse.

Wade, when I got the car back in 2007 it was in there and I didn't think it was a problem. I wanted spares so I recently starting using the Ford stuff.

I have been through tech with the aluminum center section at Indy many times along with numerous other national events over the last 4 years, I had no problems.

Vic, call Biondo Racing, that's were I got the gloves. Very comfortable and they have a good feel to them.

Michael, its nice to know I got a break on shipping. The removable wheel makes it easy to get in and out when the car is in the trailer, that's the only time I remove it.

Thanks everyone for the support, what's done is done, lets move on to racing.

Below are some pictures of Gary Richard's new CJ's. The paint work is beautiful, as you can see, under the hood, door jams and even the seat has custom paint. Very nice.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:04 AM   #10
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I wish I would have known about it, I would not have had to go through this ordeal.
Yo Ken, Sorry to hear about your ordeal. Get me started on this topic the next time you see me. Make sure that you have plenty of time.
On a lighter note, go back to tech and tell them that you are a close, personal friend of mine! OBTW, bring your tools!
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