Ford and Mopar Aluminum R/E Cases??

[Mark Yacavone]

Kenny , Don't get me wrong. I think you got a bad deal. They should have let you by, pending a new ruling.

A lot of this stuff depends on how you argue it.

" I got it out of a 2008 CJ. I put it in a couple years ago . It's OEM now (good argument)


"It was in the car when I got it. It doesn't say in the rulebook that you CAN'T use it" (bad argument)

BTW, Once the rulebook says you CAN use an aftermarket item, there's no need to spell out every type of material it can be made out of.

[Ken Miele]

Mark, I didn't know you were such expert on on the rule book. I should have consulted with you before I built my car.

And since you are the expert here, can I replace my center section with an aftermarket as long as it is steel, even though there is no mention about aftermarket cases. Remember if it does not say I can, it means I can't.

[Ed Wright]

Sorry I offended you.

[Jeff Lee]

There used to be a section in the rule book that said something like..."can not replace parts with lighter versions of parts unless specifically stated"...or words to that effect. I no longer see that but I believe that is the tradition that NHRA follows.
I'm with Mark, a specific rule and possible interpretation to every nut and bolt on a Stocker would take volumes to address.

I once challenged that since the OEM has roller rockers (like an LT4 as an example) that they should be allowed on a 327. Apparently NHRA doesn't see it that way.

And Ken, just because you can't find a performance advantage to running an aluminum center section in Stock doesn't mean it can't be done. The fact I have no experience in this (in Stock) has no bearing. When I raced S/ST I took advantage of putting an aluminum 9" in that car. And my present car has gun-drilled axles, back-cut gears and scalloped spool. So I do put my money on the fact there are improvements.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Mark, I didn't know you were such expert on on the rule book. I should have consulted with you before I built my car.

And since you are the expert here, can I replace my center section with an aftermarket as long as it is steel, even though there is no mention about aftermarket cases. Remember if it does not say I can, it means I can't.

Ken, No expert , that's for sure. I don't think anyone could be .
I've been around NHRA for over 40 years now, and I just have an idea how they think most of the time. I do think that they put some of the vague, ambiguous language in there just to give themselves wiggle room .

As to your question, the aftermarket steel case is close enough to OEM in weight and density, that it's considered a replacement part, similar to a Moser 12 bolt (Technically not OEM either).
I got busted at Gainesville years ago, for having a Moroso aluminum water pump on a 283 Stocker . I painted it black and all, same as the engine. I knew it wouldn't fly if it was ever spotted. I happened to have a cast iron spare in the truck, ready to go on . LOL

[Ken Miele]

I think your forgetting the golden rule, if it does not say you can, it means you can't.

Mark, lets just say I don't agree with any of your interpretations of the rules that I mentioned, especial the one that effected me. Oh yes, that's exactly what I thought you would say, I just wanted to see you type it.

Jeff, one more time, NHRA told me it is not a performance advantage, that argument is over.

[Larry Hill]

Bill dont forget drive by wire!

I'm going to get one of the new 8 4/4 so i can get better gear selection and rear suport on the pinion...

[RJ Sledge]

Larry does a Mopar 8 4/4=a 9" Ford??

RJ

[Phillip marvetz]

Originally Posted by R J Sledge

Larry does a Mopar 8 4/4=a 9" Ford??

RJ

Yes

[7423]

You have mentioned that you want a clarification of the rule. Who would you like to hear this from? Does NHRA employ someone who has the authority to "clarify" something in the rule book?