Houston only 17 stockers with 1 week to go?

[7423]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Looking at the entry lists it seems the super cars are not as affected by the economy. i wonder if it might be something else.

Super cars are cheaper to run, maintain and build. Well over 50% of the super pilots double up with 2 cars in 2 classes. They are also eligible for about twice as much in decal $ compare to S/SS.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by 7423

Super cars are cheaper to run, maintain and build. Well over 50% of the super pilots double up with 2 cars in 2 classes. They are also eligible for about twice as much in decal $ compare to S/SS.

Not all cheaper. You want to buy a Superstocker that can get the instant hit anywhere for $15,000 PM me

[7423]

Art
Super cars are the super gas, super street and super comp.......................

[art leong]

Originally Posted by 7423

Art
Super cars are the super gas, super street and super comp.......................

I know that I was just stating it doesn't have to cost a bundle to run stock or superstock.
Just like you don't need a stacker and a toterhome.

[Alan Roehrich]

Art,
You're looking for one problem, the one that bothers you the most, to be the cause of the bigger problem. However, the vast majority of Stock and Super Stock racers are not completely engrossed in class eliminations, and any financial rewards they might take home from them.

We have 3 class wins at National Events in the last 3-4 years, counting one with someone else driving another car. We like running class, but it does not determine when and/or where we race, or if we race. From talking to a lot of people, that seems to be the case for the majority.

The one big problem, car count, is not a matter of any one factor, but rather a matter of several factors. Fuel prices, the economy, and NHRA,
are all factors. Most racers would not be deterred by ONE factor, but facing several factors is another matter entirely.

[Toby Lang]

Good post, Alan. I think everybody knows if they were still paying for class as in years past, Art probably wouldn't give a rat's *** how many cars were entered. It's just an excuse to complain about how they changed the class payouts.

Art, in my humble opinion, you need to get over it. No amount of complaining is going to change things. The sponsors don't want to pay for class anymore -- especially singles -- and it sounds like you're lucky to get the program they have now.

Even if they were still paying for class like before, I doubt the car counts would be that much higher. Most people only get $150 - $300 for class. Is it worth driving 500 - 1000 miles to win $150?


-Toby

[Jeff Teuton]

Cost to race> Stopped at the Petro in Shreveport on the way to Dallas, took on about $400 in diesel @ 4.069 per, stopped on the way back and took on almost $400 again, but @ 4.099. The Petro was the highest of the truck stops. Kevin stopped south of Dallas at a QT for 3.89 a gal. Next week Houston, 600 miles @ 6 mpg, that's about $400, generator for Thur-Sun lets say 40 gals, thats $170, 2 entries in Stock $610, crew $85 Food, say $150 Thats about $1400 plus beer, now we are over $2000. This ain't for the light hearted. Ditto to Toby post

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Art,
You're looking for one problem, the one that bothers you the most, to be the cause of the bigger problem. However, the vast majority of Stock and Super Stock racers are not completely engrossed in class eliminations, and any financial rewards they might take home from them.

We have 3 class wins at National Events in the last 3-4 years, counting one with someone else driving another car. We like running class, but it does not determine when and/or where we race, or if we race. From talking to a lot of people, that seems to be the case for the majority.

The one big problem, car count, is not a matter of any one factor, but rather a matter of several factors. Fuel prices, the economy, and NHRA,
are all factors. Most racers would not be deterred by ONE factor, but facing several factors is another matter entirely.

Well Alan if that was the case for most? Why are the quotas higher by at least 20% for those events that run class? I know some of guys have there cars so cutting edge they don't want to waste 2 or 3 runs to win class. Some just don't care if they are the fastest in the class or not.
I quit stock because it was absolutly no fun worrying about getting factor every run. That isn't racing to me. I know of 3 racers that are probably no going to race anymore because of the no singles rule. This all started with the qualifiers only at Indy do please the crybabies. Now it has evolved to why should he or she make $500 for a class win when I can't. As far as the manufacturers are concerned they sell just as many parts to a car the makes a single as someone that has 15 cars in their class. As far as my situation goes I make a single I qualify where I want. If there were 5 cars in my class it wouldn't matter. Would it?
For me I'd go to a race and make $750 for a class win. It paid for a lot of my expenses.
People on here say I have no right to expect to win class. If so build one and beat me.
And take the hit.

[Myron Piatek]

Even adjusted for inflation, today's prices tend to be higher than 2008.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/