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Old 04-30-2011, 11:32 AM   #1
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Default Re: worst red light debate, again!

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Every time this thing goes around, it gains a little more support. It's now down to the point that the only people who don't think changing to a worse red light are:

I don't know about that, but it seems every time this comes up , one more person who was totally against it in the past , figures out how it would actually work.
That could be a good thing.
Keep it up the "educatin" , Bill
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:03 PM   #2
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dear bill dedman...

why not pick a date for everyone who thinks this change is a good idea to send an email to thier divisional director and copy bruce and gracia....

give everyone a few weeks to get the word around, but pick a date to "petition" NHRA

now i know if you publish it here all the enhanced fast guys will immediately send in thier bull**** "we want to preserve our RIGHT to have more advantages over the slow cars" agenda but MAYBE, just MAYBE NHRA will see through thier bull**** at least once !

if not i wont be dissappointed, like i said in my post it wont ever change, but it is wrong.

anyway, do something besides beat the issue to death on this site.

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Old 04-30-2011, 12:09 PM   #3
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Default Re: worst red light debate, again!

Listen to Terry, this is not where you will get anything changed. Actually writing a real logical paper letter, not one filled with stupid rants about how you think you are getting screwed over. Maybe they will consider it. Might send one to IHRA if that is where you race.
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And don't forget to send a copy of that to Obama, he's great at changing things............
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Old 04-30-2011, 02:30 PM   #5
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Default Re: worst red light debate, again!

So Bill...once you get this rule to your liking, will you race a S/SS car? Is this what it takes for you to race?
What will you build or buy?
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:02 PM   #6
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Think he's building a slant six bracket car?
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So Bill...once you get this rule to your liking, will you race a S/SS car? Is this what it takes for you to race?
What will you build or buy?
I am too old and infirm to take the beating that campaigning an NHRA Stocker would provide me, given all the travel involved, to say nothing of the travel expense, BUT that is surely what I'd do if I had the physical wherewithall to get it done right, because that's where my heart is.

Instead, I have a Bracket car that I race at a local track (when I have the time, and am able), a Vortech, low boost... 10 psi) 360 Magnum-powered '72 Valiant 4-door that goes mid elevens @118 mph, and am partners in a new, experimental slant six-powered 1964 Valiant that will be a high-boost (30+ pounds) turbocharged car that is stilll being put together at my racing partner's garage. It's (as well as my other, supercharged car) run under the same starting-line protocol as a Stocker would, so I am subject to a first red light rule, just like everybody else, until it is changed (if it ever is.... doubtful.) Here are some pix of these cars and their engines, That's me in the white coat...

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Old 04-30-2011, 05:38 PM   #8
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You and everybody else who has read through this looooong and drawn out subject know my thoughts on this subject.What annoys me the most is that if the rule is changed in S/SS racing it doesn't affect you at all.If you want this rule changed for something that directly affects you then go on all the bracket racing sites and go to the top of the mountain and rage for all you're worth.
I don't go on NASCAR sites and tell them I think having foreign car makes in NASCAR bites.Because it does.It's their deal and they do what they want.
And besides who gives a flying flock what I have to say?
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And besides who gives a flying flock what I have to say?
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Handicap drag racing is handicap drag racing.......
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You and everybody else who has read through this looooong and drawn out subject know my thoughts on this subject.What annoys me the most is that if the rule is changed in S/SS racing it doesn't affect you at all.If you want this rule changed for something that directly affects you then go on all the bracket racing sites and go to the top of the mountain and rage for all you're worth.
I don't go on NASCAR sites and tell them I think having foreign car makes in NASCAR bites.Because it does.It's their deal and they do what they want.
And besides who gives a flying flock what I have to say?
Ed wrote: "What annoys me the most is that if the rule is changed in S/SS racing it doesn't affect you at all."

It affects me in exactly the same way it affects you.
IT AFFECTS ME IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY IT AFFECTS YOU!!!

When I am the first to leave at ANY Bracket race I attend with either car I take to the strip, wheen I am the first to leave, if I red light, the car in the other lane NEVER has his chance to red light.

Read that again.

That is 100-percent correct,

Now, tell me how the firat red light rule under which YOU race, doesn't afftect me, in exactly the same way.

PLEASE, tell me.

When you write things like that, it's obvious to me that you have, in spite of ALL THIS VERBIAGE, ~NO~ conception of how this works.

One more time; tell me how I don't get screwed the very same way that YOU do, when you're the first to leave, and you red light, handing the win to the other car, with him never getting HIS chance to red light..

Unequal treatment for the two cars.... and it's universal in handicap racing, NHRA Stock, Super Stock, Comp and generic Bracket racing, and it's the same for everybody.

So, you could imagine my befuddlement, when you wrote, "What annoys me the most is that if the rule is changed in S/SS racing it doesn't affect you at all." Oh yes, Ed, it affects me in PRECICELY the same way it affects you (and everybody else who is handicap racing.) If it didn't, I surely wouldn't be on this BB writing all these impaassioned pleas for something that wouldn't affect ME.
Believe it...

Still shaking my head....
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