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Old 05-09-2011, 01:02 AM   #1
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Ed,

I think you have broken the post counter...........It appears to be stuck at 4008 posts?????

Now you've done it......

No soup for you....

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Old 05-09-2011, 07:08 AM   #2
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Mr. Dedman, you remind me of Harry Markopolos: In an ocean of naysayers, YOU are correct.

Sleep easily, as one day, you WILL be vindicated on this issue.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:38 AM   #3
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If you can tell me what is fair or equitable about a rule that treats different compititors, differently, please do


Rhetorical question as you stated it. The rules do treat competitors equitably. Each have the opportunity to cut a good light and run the dial. The one with the best light and closer to the dial wins 100% of the time.

The first red light rule treats the first-to-leave cars differently from the way it treats second-to-leave cars, if the first-to-leave red light.

So you believe the slower cars deserve a "mulligan"?
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:45 AM   #4
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Why does the second car get a mulligan?

Why not both lose?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:07 PM   #5
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If you can tell me what is fair or equitable about a rule that treats different compititors, differently, please do


Rhetorical question as you stated it. The rules do treat competitors equitably. Each have the opportunity to cut a good light and run the dial. The one with the best light and closer to the dial wins 100% of the time.

The first red light rule treats the first-to-leave cars differently from the way it treats second-to-leave cars, if the first-to-leave red light.

So you believe the slower cars deserve a "mulligan"?
This rule does NOTHING for the slower car beyond offering as way to give it an EQUAL chance to compare red lights with the faster car.

Two cars; two chances. Where's the "gimmee"????

To award a win to one car for an infraction he never had a chance to commit, IS a "gimmee."

We don't need "gimmee's" in Class racing... or, Bracket racing.

Let's get rid of it.
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:41 PM   #6
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If you can tell me what is fair or equitable about a rule that treats different compititors, differently, please do


Rhetorical question as you stated it. The rules do treat competitors equitably. Each have the opportunity to cut a good light and run the dial. The one with the best light and closer to the dial wins 100% of the time.

The first red light rule treats the first-to-leave cars differently from the way it treats second-to-leave cars, if the first-to-leave red light.

So you believe the slower cars deserve a "mulligan"?
Are you quoting here? This post makes no sense to me.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:00 PM   #7
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Hey Mark.....yes, I was quoting Bill with the first and third paragraphs. Sorry, I was educated at ASU. Oh, I better clear that up. That is not a joke.

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Mr. Dedman, you remind me of Harry Markopolos: In an ocean of naysayers, YOU are correct.

Sleep easily, as one day, you WILL be vindicated on this issue.
Thanks, Bunkster; it's easy to maintan a position when you have facts on your side.

Fact: the current rule treats first-to-leave cars differently from second-to-leave cars.
Fact: this rule is the ONLY rule I know of that treats cars unequally, in this manner (depriving one of red light jeopardy, if the first car bulbs.)
Fact: there's no reason (any more) to continue this unequal treatment.
Fact: no one YET has offered up a solution for this problem other than a new rule (worse red light.)
Fact: it will never be changed because NHRA doesn't stand to make any money off changing it.
Fact: knowing NHRA's selfish policy doesn't condone its continued use.
Fact: realizing the facts is a plus.
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