Where are the lower class cars?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Looking at Stock qualifying at Bristol. Only seven cars in classes lower than G/SA. I guess everybody's need for speed trumps again.

I thought the need for speed was the reason most went racing. For me, personally, anything slower than G/S just isn't much fun. In an age when you can buy 12-13 second production street cars, and "bolt-ons" will yield 10-11 second performance, why is anyone surprised that slower cars are falling out of favor?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I thought the need for speed was the reason most went racing. For me, personally, anything slower than G/S just isn't much fun. In an age when you can buy 12-13 second production street cars, and "bolt-ons" will yield 10-11 second performance, why is anyone surprised that slower cars are falling out of favor?

Alan, I must say that I'm more than a little bit disappointed with your answer.
When you think you're "good", then try going "fast" (fast being a relative word) with something that has no parts availability, compatibility or history and let me know how you make out.
Lower classed cars are falling out of favor because money and knowledge are too easy to come by to build upper classed cars.
I honestly expected better from you!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Alan, I must say that I'm more than a little bit disappointed with your answer.
When you think you're "good", then try going "fast" (fast being a relative word) with something that has no parts availability, compatibility or history and let me know how you make out.
Lower classed cars are falling out of favor because money and knowledge are too easy to come by to build upper classed cars.
I honestly expected better from you!

I'm not here to "impress" you, or anyone else, with my answers.

I never said I thought I was good, if I was, our stuff would be a lot faster.

I said many people are not happy going slow.

If you like slower cars, that's fine.

For me, there is just not enough excitement to be had on the track with a slower car, no matter how challenging it is to make it a competitive class car.

The threshold for fun in a race car, for me, is around 11.50 at 115 or better.

I have no criticism for people who like slower cars. If that is what you like, by all means, have at it. It's all about what you find to be fun. I do, however, find it amusing that people want to criticize people for preferring to go faster.

[StripeHOG]

I race a 11 sec car and a 17 sec truck and I have the same amount of fun if not more in my truck!!!!! as long as the light is on in my lane I don't care what I'm driving!!!! BTW I've won a heck of a lot more rounds in the truck!!!

[Bob Mulry]

National Record Holders................

J/SA 11.31 115.51 10/24/10 Eugene Monahan - Brockton, MA '90 Pontiac Mohnton, PA
K/SA 11.69 110.82 05/28/11 Shawn Kvaas - Pitt Meadows, BC '77 Pontiac Mission, BC
L/SA 11.58 114.80 04/30/10 Bill Edgeworth - Tacoma, WA '77 Pontiac Eagle, ID
M/SA 11.53 114.07 05/01/10 Angelo Phillips - Scottsdale, AZ '78 Plymouth Eagle, ID
N/SA 11.78 111.70 06/26/10 Bill Edgeworth - Tacoma, WA '77 Pontiac Woodburn, OR

If you want to talk fast.....These guys are FAST............

AND

They all run mid 11's at over 110 mph

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

National Record Holders................

J/SA 11.31 115.51 10/24/10 Eugene Monahan - Brockton, MA '90 Pontiac Mohnton, PA
K/SA 11.69 110.82 05/28/11 Shawn Kvaas - Pitt Meadows, BC '77 Pontiac Mission, BC
L/SA 11.58 114.80 04/30/10 Bill Edgeworth - Tacoma, WA '77 Pontiac Eagle, ID
M/SA 11.53 114.07 05/01/10 Angelo Phillips - Scottsdale, AZ '78 Plymouth Eagle, ID
N/SA 11.78 111.70 06/26/10 Bill Edgeworth - Tacoma, WA '77 Pontiac Woodburn, OR

If you want to talk fast.....These guys are FAST............

AND

They all run mid 11's at over 110 mph

Just wait until the new Ford Mustangs get ahold of these guys.....LOL.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

National Record Holders................

J/SA 11.31 115.51 10/24/10 Eugene Monahan - Brockton, MA '90 Pontiac Mohnton, PA
K/SA 11.69 110.82 05/28/11 Shawn Kvaas - Pitt Meadows, BC '77 Pontiac Mission, BC
L/SA 11.58 114.80 04/30/10 Bill Edgeworth - Tacoma, WA '77 Pontiac Eagle, ID
M/SA 11.53 114.07 05/01/10 Angelo Phillips - Scottsdale, AZ '78 Plymouth Eagle, ID
N/SA 11.78 111.70 06/26/10 Bill Edgeworth - Tacoma, WA '77 Pontiac Woodburn, OR

If you want to talk fast.....These guys are FAST............

AND

They all run mid 11's at over 110 mph

And there's nothing wrong with that. Nor did I ever say there was. The lack of respect for the preferences of other people here is not mine. Apparently, those of us who race big block Camaros (or late model small block cars) are not worthy of respect, we all have it too easy evidently. It appears you have to work on a lower class oddball combination to achieve personal satisfaction and earn respect.

[Billy Nees]

Alan, I go racing for personal satisfaction. I apparently, mistakenly assumed that you did also. I must be mistaken.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Alan, I go racing for personal satisfaction. I apparently, mistakenly assumed that you did also. I must be mistaken.

No, you were not mistaken. I do race for personal satisfaction. People find personal satisfaction in different ways. You assume too much. Just because we race two big block Camaros in Stock and Super Stock (and we now have a 97 Camaro on loan that I am working on) does not mean I do not get personal satisfaction from working on our program.

Your mistaken assumption is that personal satisfaction has to come from racing a slower car or an oddball combination. It does not.

I can respect that some people like and enjoy the slower cars and oddball combinations. It is amusing that the respect is not mutual, all things considered.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Your mistaken assumption is that personal satisfaction has to come from racing a slower car or an oddball combination. It does not.

MY personal satisfaction comes from doing things that no one has done before not rehashing the SOS. Now maybe it's because I just can't stand to do another Chevy V8 in ANY form but if you're still getting your fix from doing them, you keep up the good work and, above all, enjoy yourself.